tire and rim sizing

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09 Mar 2007 20:39 #118837 by wireman
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allright you guys with the 17" wheels ,whats a good combination for a bike that will spend most of its time cruising in a straight line with occasional trip down the interstate ,but no serious canyon carving i just want to be able to lay into a corner without having to fight mismatched tire sizes.im planning on using a shinko 190/17 on rear APE doesnt show a sidewall ratio for it though.i was thinking a 120/17 on front but unsure about aspect ratio to run :blink: everything ive always run had a 19" front wheel and an 18 or 16" rear wheel,except my 1100 suzuki year ago so this is new ground for me guys,help! ;)oh yeah im guessing i need a 6" rear wheel for the 190,but what should i run for the 120?

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10 Mar 2007 06:16 #118895 by wiredgeorge
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The shafty I own has a 17" rear wheel. I THINK it is 3 1/2" wide but darned if I would want to swear to it. I use a 130/90-17 on the rear and use Dunlop 404s which are fine tires for a heavier bike... decent handling and good wear at a reasonable price. I use Cheng Shin Hi-Maxes on my other KZs which are generally lighter 900s and those are OK but I doubt they would hold up on the heavier shafty too well.

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10 Mar 2007 07:04 #118908 by caffcruiser
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How about you tell us what your wheel measurements are and we can pick tires based on those. ;)

That makes a lot more sense. :)

FWIW: I've got custom 40 spokes on my bike I'm building, 17x3.5 and 17x5.

I'm running a Michelin Pilot Sport 120/70 on the front and Michelin Pilot Road 170/60 on the rear.

Putting a ROAD on the rear won't decrease your ability to ride hard.... it's just a longer lasting compound for street riding.

But yeah, the 120/170 combo runs REALLY well because the rear end won't overpower the front end in a corner and cause iffy handling..... whereas the 190 will. ;)

***That selection was made based on advice from a few different classic Guzzi and Ducati race guys who always swore by the 120/170 combo for performance.

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10 Mar 2007 08:55 #118929 by wireman
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caffcruiser wrote:

How about you tell us what your wheel measurements are and we can pick tires based on those. ;)

That makes a lot more sense. :)

FWIW: I've got custom 40 spokes on my bike I'm building, 17x3.5 and 17x5.

I'm running a Michelin Pilot Sport 120/70 on the front and Michelin Pilot Road 170/60 on the rear.

Putting a ROAD on the rear won't decrease your ability to ride hard.... it's just a longer lasting compound for street riding.

But yeah, the 120/170 combo runs REALLY well because the rear end won't overpower the front end in a corner and cause iffy handling..... whereas the 190 will. ;)

***That selection was made based on advice from a few different classic Guzzi and Ducati race guys who always swore by the 120/170 combo for performance.<br><br>Post edited by: caffcruiser, at: 2007/03/10 10:06

i havent ordered the rims yet ,i wanted to make sure what i needed to fit that 190 on the back before i ordered them.ive always run 3.5" back rims but ive never gone over 150 for a tire though.i dont think a 170 rear tire will hold when i hit the switch on this project i wanted to try a 180 but shinkos come in 190 and 200 so i figured id try the 190.ive got 8 plus inches of clearance in the narrowest part of swingarm so anything less than a 180 is gonna look strange in there im thinking,im gonna go look at a zx-14 and a busa to compare wheel sizes:evil:

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10 Mar 2007 10:43 #118967 by 77KZ650
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will a ZX12R work for a comparison?:evil:
rear wheel=17x6 (will be ordering a shinko ultra soft)
front wheel=17x3.5 has a 120/70ZR17(58W) Dunlop
I hear Pilot Powers are great tires, and Avon Storms, and if the front isnt low enough try a 120/60

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01 ZX-12R street/drag bike. 8.97 @155.7 pump gas, dot tires, no bars, no power adders. top speed in the 1/4: 161MPH

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10 Mar 2007 10:46 #118970 by wireman
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77KZ650 wrote:

will a ZX12R work for a comparison?:evil:
rear wheel=17x6 (will be ordering a shinko ultra soft)
front wheel=17x3.5 has a 120/70ZR17(58W) Dunlop
I hear Pilot Powers are great tires, and Avon Storms, and if the front isnt low enough try a 120/60

that will give me something to start with!thanks;)

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10 Mar 2007 11:27 #118982 by 77KZ650
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wireman wrote:

77KZ650 wrote:

will a ZX12R work for a comparison?:evil:
rear wheel=17x6 (will be ordering a shinko ultra soft)
front wheel=17x3.5 has a 120/70ZR17(58W) Dunlop
I hear Pilot Powers are great tires, and Avon Storms, and if the front isnt low enough try a 120/60

that will give me something to start with!thanks;)

np, you have to be set up right. I dont want any excuses if I ever come down and race ya, ;) :whistle: :evil: :laugh: :P :)

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10 Mar 2007 12:17 #118996 by wireman
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maybe ill come up and race you!:evil: :P

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10 Mar 2007 12:38 #119004 by 77KZ650
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pick a wknd:evil: :P
www.miramichidragway.com/

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10 Mar 2007 12:41 #119005 by wireman
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77KZ650 wrote:

pick a wknd:evil: :P
www.miramichidragway.com/

are we running on land or water?:P its gonna be a while before the 1385 is ready to race anything except the dust collecting on it!:P

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10 Mar 2007 12:50 #119010 by 77KZ650
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on the track, I ment a wknd from the schedual:P www.miramichidragway.com/pages/2007schedule.htm
if you actully do come up north for some fun, come up for the noonan nationals in sept. they started a streetbike shootout last yr, and thats what Im gearing up for

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10 Mar 2007 13:13 #119017 by wireman
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77KZ650 wrote:

on the track, I ment a wknd from the schedual:P www.miramichidragway.com/pages/2007schedule.htm
if you actully do come up north for some fun, come up for the noonan nationals in sept. they started a streetbike shootout last yr, and thats what Im gearing up for

looks like those guys have a lot of rules!:blink: no bicycle parts,brakes on both wheels,im gonna throw me together an old beater track bike out of the extras pile for running here at track.all we have is an 1/8th mile track with a soybean field at end of it,and i dont want to be picking beans with my turbo:evil: :P

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