weak horn - solved!
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31 Aug 2006 20:37 #73770
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So when I bought this bike a couple years ago the horn was shot. I bought a Fiamm AM80 and hooked it up in about 5 minutes but the thing would only work above 4000rpm! This was a huge problem because I need the horn when I'm not revving it up
So it's gone like that for almost two years until tonight, when I decided to analyze the horn on my work bench.
Turning the screw (whose silicone I was initially afraid to break) changes the current draw of the horn. I suspect it adjusts the solenoid relief space or tension of the vibrating thing.
Counterclockwise increases current draw.
Clockwise decreases it until it's open circuited.
So I turned it all the way in and pulled it out to about a 1.5-2A draw. It now works at lower voltages (12.5V) and is loud enough, though not as loud as when it drew the full 4A.
If you have problems with a new horn, it may be worth messing with the screw until you get good results. Don't be like me and put off turning a screw 2 turns for 2 years!
(edit: I also rebuilt the horn button over the winter.)
Post edited by: inline79, at: 2006/09/01 10:30
So it's gone like that for almost two years until tonight, when I decided to analyze the horn on my work bench.
Turning the screw (whose silicone I was initially afraid to break) changes the current draw of the horn. I suspect it adjusts the solenoid relief space or tension of the vibrating thing.
Counterclockwise increases current draw.
Clockwise decreases it until it's open circuited.
So I turned it all the way in and pulled it out to about a 1.5-2A draw. It now works at lower voltages (12.5V) and is loud enough, though not as loud as when it drew the full 4A.
If you have problems with a new horn, it may be worth messing with the screw until you get good results. Don't be like me and put off turning a screw 2 turns for 2 years!
(edit: I also rebuilt the horn button over the winter.)
Post edited by: inline79, at: 2006/09/01 10:30
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01 Sep 2006 10:54 #73883
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1983 KZ1100-L1 "LTD Shaft"
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that's very interesting, and a hell of a lot easier than installing a relay controlled extra horn power circuit. Did it change the pitch of the sound when you tirned the screw?
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Wiseco 10.5:1 1171 piston kit, bored by APE
Dyna 2000, Dyna S, Dyna grey coils, WG coil power mod, CB900 starter
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01 Sep 2006 18:53 #73970
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It changed the volume only, not the pitch by any noticeable amount. A horn relay was an option, but I'd rather have a slightly weaker horn than have up to an additional 1/10th second delay with the relay in there.
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01 Sep 2006 19:25 #73979
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I've really got to look at mine. It's been over 2 years that I have been without a horn.
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03 Sep 2006 15:48 #74287
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Well I took a stab at mine again today and got her working. I used an aftermarket Fiam horn (much louder)that has one terminal and a mounting bolt, which is to be grounded. First attempt got the horn coming on as soon as I turned the key on. Due to the grounded mounting. I needed to isolate this mount (rubber mount it) away from ground. I also used the Brown wire from my front brake stop switch as the feed wire (I couldn't find the proper horn one, as my brake switch hasn't worked in ages). They both (horn and stop switch) share the Brown circuit.
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03 Sep 2006 17:24 #74302
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PREVIOUS KZs: 1980 KZ750H with 108,000 miles; 1980 KZ750E with 28,000 miles; and KZ750H street/cafe project, all sold a few years back.
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Will that mean that if you use your brakes and your horn at the same time you will blow a fuse?
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03 Sep 2006 17:40 #74306
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:laugh: I hope not!
I've had the two wires/plugs from the splitter/switch disconnected for a while. Looking at the wiring diagram, I noticed the brown wire from the switch is in the same circuit as the brown wire from the horn. So I don't think there should be any problem. I better test it to be sure.
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Will that mean that if you use your brakes and your horn at the same time you will blow a fuse?
:laugh: I hope not!
I've had the two wires/plugs from the splitter/switch disconnected for a while. Looking at the wiring diagram, I noticed the brown wire from the switch is in the same circuit as the brown wire from the horn. So I don't think there should be any problem. I better test it to be sure.
Rob
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1978 KZ650 C2, 130K kms, Delkevic ex, EI, CVK32, PMC easy clutch, ATK fork brace, steering damper, Progressive Suspension, braced swingarm, ZRX shocks, 18" Z1R front wheel.
2000 ZRX1100
2011 Ninja 250R - Wife's
2005 z750s
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