Get RPM reading working for display KOZO RX2N

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Get RPM reading working for display KOZO RX2N

08 Oct 2025 04:31
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Hi,I’ve upgraded my electrical system ( Wiring diagram with munit - REVIEW - KZRider Forum - KZRider, KZ, Z1 & Z Motorcycle Enthusiast's Forum ), and the last thing left is to get the RPM working.I’ve spliced a cable from one of the pickup sensors and tried connecting it to the RPM input on the speedometer, but without any success.Scirocco recommended the following:
“The noisy speedo signal could be tricky and could end up with a jumping needle — don’t ask how I know it…
An ABS signal converter connected to one of the ignition pickups was my final cure.”


My question is: would this unit work to fix the signal?
DUAL STEP-UP STEP-DOWN SINE-TO-SQUARE DIGITAL SIGNAL CONVERTER, 0.8V Trigger | eBay

Electrical diagram from my bike:


Manual from the display:
 


Thank you for your input !
 
 
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Re: Get RPM reading working for display KOZO RX2N

08 Oct 2025 05:02
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Have you tried "all" the options in the fitting instructions (I find it hard to believe you need to fit additional components not mentioned in the fitting instructions) - What do Koso say ?

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08 Oct 2025 05:10
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Have you tried "all" the options in the fitting instructions (I find it hard to believe you need to fit additional components not mentioned in the fitting instructions) - What do Koso say ?
I have tried the following:
  1. Connected the wire to the cable going to one of the coils — no RPM reading as a result.
  2. Wrapped the wire around one of the spark plug cables — got a noisy RPM signal.
I want a clean and permanent hook-up.You don’t think my suggested solution will work?
1981 KZ650-D4, with 1981 z750L engine (Wiensco 810 big bore).

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www.kzrider.com/forum/11-projects/607213...sr-1981-z750l-engine

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Re: Get RPM reading working for display KOZO RX2N

08 Oct 2025 05:17
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It may or may not (I would take advise from Koso if they respond) what spark plugs are you running - are they "R" type as specified by Koso 

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Re: Get RPM reading working for display KOZO RX2N

08 Oct 2025 05:42 - 08 Oct 2025 05:43
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It may or may not (I would take advise from Koso if they respond) what spark plugs are you running - are they "R" type as specified by Koso 
I can try to contact them again, but I didn’t get the impression they wanted to help earlier.Zero resistors in the spark plug and cap — that’s the advice from the forum to get the best possible spark. :)

I’ll take the chance and order the device to test it. I’ll first try connecting it to the pickup sensor, and if that doesn’t work, I’ll try connecting it to the coil supply and see what happens.
1981 KZ650-D4, with 1981 z750L engine (Wiensco 810 big bore).

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www.kzrider.com/forum/11-projects/607213...sr-1981-z750l-engine
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08 Oct 2025 06:40
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It may or may not (I would take advise from Koso if they respond) what spark plugs are you running - are they "R" type as specified by Koso 
I can try to contact them again, but I didn’t get the impression they wanted to help earlier. Zero resistors in the spark plug and cap — that’s the advice from the forum to get the best possible spark. :)

I’ll take the chance and order the device to test it. I’ll first try connecting it to the pickup sensor, and if that doesn’t work, I’ll try connecting it to the coil supply and see what happens.
Un-supressed ignition will give the best spark on a carb motor with basic ignition "however" once you introduce electronics (M-unit, Koso gauge etc) un-supressed ignition can cause interference - This may not be the only issue but there is a reason why the below "troubleshooting guide" in your Koso instruction manual specifies "R" type plugs !!!!!!!

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Re: Get RPM reading working for display KOZO RX2N

08 Oct 2025 07:40
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I have only ever installed two digital tachs and they always were hooked up to a coil NEG post. I only see coil POS on those instructions, but don't believe that would work as even newer Kawi digital tachs use coil NEG to get the signal pulse.

I would take Wookie58's advice and re read the trouble shooting guide.

No harm in running one resistor off the coils (spark plug or wire) you won't be able to tell the difference performance wise. 
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08 Oct 2025 07:55
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I have only ever installed two digital tachs and they always were hooked up to a coil NEG post. I only see coil POS on those instructions, but don't believe that would work as even newer Kawi digital tachs use coil NEG to get the signal pulse.

I would take Wookie58's advice and re read the trouble shooting guide.

No harm in running one resistor off the coils (spark plug or wire) you won't be able to tell the difference performance wise. 
It is strange that the instruction specifies the "positive" on the coil as this will only fluctuate a little "on" and "off" load - the Neg or "switched side" gives a much clearer signal (the GPZ1100 igniter I'm using on my build has the tach wire coming from the igniter unit which again would suggest "Neg" or pick-up coil)
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Re: Get RPM reading working for display KOZO RX2N

11 Oct 2025 21:22 - 12 Oct 2025 00:37
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This item that I just purchased may help you.

gkgoodcheapparts.com/products/bta-tach-adaptor

I need to try it out first. So don't buy one yet.
It's funny Gordone---you linked to another device on ebay by Widget Man.
He has some interesting devices.


I'm tired of my tach needle bouncing after 5000rpm.
I bought an used Autometer Pro Comp tach. Unfortunately, the tach may be only for 8 cylinder cars.. hence the tach adapter I bought.
I'm going to pull my tach signal off of my alternator and just set the adapter for 3 input pulses to 1 output. You can set different ratios between input signal and output signal.

 

 

 
 
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Re: Get RPM reading working for display KOZO RX2N

12 Oct 2025 04:26
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Looking forward to hear how its working for you.

will give feedback on my results also :)
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