Zephyr 750 Ignition Swap
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Zephyr 750 Ignition Swap
01 Jul 2022 13:10
Thought I'd post this here as I couldn't find anything definitve when I searched last week.
I have been building a '93 zephyr with my son and due to the changes made to the front end we used a KZ1000A ignition switch and steering lock. We ran into problems when trying to start the bike as the original switch has a resistor in it that is used to drop the voltage on one of the wires to the ignitor - making it harder to hotwire I suppose. We figured this out and got the bike running but ran into the same problem again and couldn't get it to work properly (maybe the battery voltage was too low?). We decided to get an aftermarket ignition to cut out the ignitor altogether and simplify the circuit.
As there are no aftermarket options for the Zephyr we looked at the options for the KZ750. I tried out my KZ750H ignition today and it works perfectly, the aftermarket one was fine as well. The Zephyr uses a KZ750 crank that was introduced mid-year on the '82 models. I wasn't sure about the fittings on the crankcase but they are the in the same position and at the same offset as the KZ750.
Just thought I would document this in case anybody is looking at replacing the zephyr ignition system.
On a side note, I accidently shorted the 750 ignitor (don't ask!) and a decent amount of smoke came out of all the wiring. It still works fine but I'm not sure I can trust it. Keep using it or ditch it and get a replacement?
I have been building a '93 zephyr with my son and due to the changes made to the front end we used a KZ1000A ignition switch and steering lock. We ran into problems when trying to start the bike as the original switch has a resistor in it that is used to drop the voltage on one of the wires to the ignitor - making it harder to hotwire I suppose. We figured this out and got the bike running but ran into the same problem again and couldn't get it to work properly (maybe the battery voltage was too low?). We decided to get an aftermarket ignition to cut out the ignitor altogether and simplify the circuit.
As there are no aftermarket options for the Zephyr we looked at the options for the KZ750. I tried out my KZ750H ignition today and it works perfectly, the aftermarket one was fine as well. The Zephyr uses a KZ750 crank that was introduced mid-year on the '82 models. I wasn't sure about the fittings on the crankcase but they are the in the same position and at the same offset as the KZ750.
Just thought I would document this in case anybody is looking at replacing the zephyr ignition system.
On a side note, I accidently shorted the 750 ignitor (don't ask!) and a decent amount of smoke came out of all the wiring. It still works fine but I'm not sure I can trust it. Keep using it or ditch it and get a replacement?
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Re: Zephyr 750 Ignition Swap
01 Jul 2022 14:01
Hi Calum, I ran into this years ago with a later model Kawa (think it was an early ZX10) it is indeed an anti-theft device. I believe the ignition module is looking for no more than 9v. You could use a variable resistor to dial in the correct amount of resistance then once you know the value simply fit a fixed resistor in the supply line to the ignition module (BE CAREFUL WHERE YOU MOUNT IT AS IT WILL GET HOT AND MAKE SURE IT IS SUITABLE FOR THE CURRENT DRAW OF THE MODULE)
Ref the smoke carefully inspect the insulation on the wiring, it probably looked worse than it was. Generally electronics are pretty fragile so if the module is still working it is likely to continue to do so.
Ref the smoke carefully inspect the insulation on the wiring, it probably looked worse than it was. Generally electronics are pretty fragile so if the module is still working it is likely to continue to do so.
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Re: Zephyr 750 Ignition Swap
01 Jul 2022 14:46
I have looked at the wiring and it looks OK. Just didn't want anything catching on fire later down the line 
The aftermarket ignition (similar to a dyna s) is installed and gave us a bit more room with the wiring so we'll be leaving it in.

The aftermarket ignition (similar to a dyna s) is installed and gave us a bit more room with the wiring so we'll be leaving it in.
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1980 KZ750H ( kzrider.com/forum/11-projects/612054-kz750h-restoration )
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1977 KZ1000A1 ( www.kzrider.com/forum/11-projects/616901...-spare-parts-project )
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Re: Zephyr 750 Ignition Swap
01 Jul 2022 15:07Sounds like a plan, I didn't realise how far down the road you were with the conversion. sounds like you have it coveredI have looked at the wiring and it looks OK. Just didn't want anything catching on fire later down the line
The aftermarket ignition (similar to a dyna s) is installed and gave us a bit more room with the wiring so we'll be leaving it in.
1982 KZ1000 Ltd
www.kzrider.com/forum/11-projects/617631...-82-begins?start=192
kzrider.com/filebase-alias?view=download...d-fault-diagnosis&ca
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Re: Zephyr 750 Ignition Swap
02 Jul 2022 02:07 - 02 Jul 2022 02:09
Yeah, this was really just to put the information out there that the crank and crankcase on the Zephyr will take the older ignition systems. Might make it easier for someone else working on a Zephyr. The 9V limit is good to know - I think we ended up using a 100 Ohm resistor, that number should have probably been a bit higher.
[EDIT: I also assume that there would be basically no current running through this circuit as it's not actually part of the ignition system - was I wrong?]
[EDIT: I also assume that there would be basically no current running through this circuit as it's not actually part of the ignition system - was I wrong?]
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1977 KZ1000A1 ( www.kzrider.com/forum/11-projects/616901...-spare-parts-project )
1980 KZ750H ( kzrider.com/forum/11-projects/612054-kz750h-restoration )
2000 BMW F650GS
1977 KZ1000A1 ( www.kzrider.com/forum/11-projects/616901...-spare-parts-project )
1980 KZ750H ( kzrider.com/forum/11-projects/612054-kz750h-restoration )
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Re: Zephyr 750 Ignition Swap
02 Jul 2022 02:16There would be current but only minimal, the main feed for the igniter is a brown from the fuse box. The resistor is in a light grey wire from the ignition switch to the igniter (this is just an input to tell the igniter the ignition switch is on and not by-passed) I believe all Kawasaki of that period had this systemYeah, this was really just to put the information out there that the crank and crankcase on the Zephyr will take the older ignition systems. Might make it easier for someone else working on a Zephyr. The 9V limit is good to know - I think we ended up using a 100 Ohm resistor, that number should have probably been a bit higher.
[EDIT: I also assume that there would be basically no current running through this circuit as it's not actually part of the ignition system - was I wrong?]
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www.kzrider.com/forum/11-projects/617631...-82-begins?start=192
kzrider.com/filebase-alias?view=download...d-fault-diagnosis&ca
www.kzrider.com/forum/11-projects/617631...-82-begins?start=192
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Re: Zephyr 750 Ignition Swap
02 Jul 2022 06:10
100 Ohm will do it.
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