Welcome, Guest
Username: Password: Remember me
  • Page:
  • 1

TOPIC:

led blinker issues 20 Sep 2021 16:11 #855548

  • texasfisherdude
  • texasfisherdude's Avatar Topic Author
  • Offline
  • User
  • 2 old 2 fat dont care
  • Posts: 119
  • Thank you received: 3
Ok heres the issue. Put on 3 wire aftermarket blinkers,changed the flasher. Now the blinkers work but the running lights dont. If I pull the blinker wires the running lights will come on. Put the wires back on they go off. I have cleaned the ground and all connections but still the same. 1980 ltd1000. Any ideas?
Life's to short to drink cheap beer
1980 LTD 1000

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

led blinker issues 20 Sep 2021 16:49 #855551

  • rstnick
  • rstnick's Avatar
  • Offline
  • User
  • Posts: 4087
  • Thank you received: 247
Did you change the flasher relay to an LED type?
I had an electronic flasher, but when I put LEDs on, I needed an LED flasher.
Don't have running lights on the KZ anymore, so can't say if those would work.
The running lights are wired separately, having their own power feed not through the relay.
Can you reverse the running light and signal light's power wires?
Maybe it will work reversed.
 
Rob.
CANADA
forums.kz650.info/
'78 KZ650 C2, 128K kms, Rickman fairing, Delkevic ex, EI, CVK32, ATK fork brace, steering damper, braced swingarm, 18" Z1R front wheel.
'00 ZRX1100, Ohlin's shocks, fork brace, steering damper, ELS +4, Corbin seat, Gimbel bugspoiler.
'11 Ninja 250R

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

led blinker issues 21 Sep 2021 12:42 #855594

  • texasfisherdude
  • texasfisherdude's Avatar Topic Author
  • Offline
  • User
  • 2 old 2 fat dont care
  • Posts: 119
  • Thank you received: 3
Yes I changed the relays the flashers work just the running lights dont 
Life's to short to drink cheap beer
1980 LTD 1000

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

led blinker issues 21 Sep 2021 14:58 #855599

  • Mikaw
  • Mikaw's Avatar
  • Offline
  • Sustaining Member
  • Posts: 3434
  • Thank you received: 887
Test the new turn signals. Use your battery and make sure you have working lights. LED are polarity specific. 3wire? How are they grounded?
1976 KZ 900 A4 kzrider.com/forum/11-projects/613548-1976-kz-900-a4
1976 KZ 900 B1 LTD
1978 KZ 1000 B2 LTD
1980 KZ 750 E1
Kowledge Speaks, But Wisdom Listens.
Jimi Hendrix.

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

led blinker issues 21 Sep 2021 16:21 #855604

  • texasfisherdude
  • texasfisherdude's Avatar Topic Author
  • Offline
  • User
  • 2 old 2 fat dont care
  • Posts: 119
  • Thank you received: 3

these are what I got . The running lights work till I plug in the blinker wires then they go out but the blinkers will work.
Life's to short to drink cheap beer
1980 LTD 1000

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

led blinker issues 21 Sep 2021 17:39 #855606

  • Mikaw
  • Mikaw's Avatar
  • Offline
  • Sustaining Member
  • Posts: 3434
  • Thank you received: 887
Blue on your bike is running lights. Connect that to the white or yellow. Black/yellow is ground and needs to be black on the lights. Green on your bike is left turn and should go to red on the new lights. Slate is Right turn and goes to red on the right side new light.
1976 KZ 900 A4 kzrider.com/forum/11-projects/613548-1976-kz-900-a4
1976 KZ 900 B1 LTD
1978 KZ 1000 B2 LTD
1980 KZ 750 E1
Kowledge Speaks, But Wisdom Listens.
Jimi Hendrix.

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

led blinker issues 22 Sep 2021 16:38 #855634

  • texasfisherdude
  • texasfisherdude's Avatar Topic Author
  • Offline
  • User
  • 2 old 2 fat dont care
  • Posts: 119
  • Thank you received: 3
[justify]I think the running lights are back flowing through the blinkers. Got some diodes coming will see if they work [/justify]
Life's to short to drink cheap beer
1980 LTD 1000

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

led blinker issues 22 Sep 2021 17:19 #855636

  • DOHC
  • DOHC's Avatar
  • Offline
  • Sustaining Member
  • Those Doe-Hawks really go!
  • Posts: 924
  • Thank you received: 299

Mikaw post=855599Test the new turn signals. Use your battery and make sure you have working lights. LED are polarity specific. 3wire? How are they grounded?

As Mikaw suggested, I really think you should test the light off of the bike, using just a battery connected directly to the wires of the turn signal.

Here is what I would do:

1) Connect the black wire to the negative terminal of the battery.

2) Connect only the yellow wire to the positive terminal.  What happens?

3) Connect only the red wire to the positive terminal.  What happens?  If it's on, is it more of less bright than before?

4) Connect both the red and yellow wire, at the same time, to  the positive terminal.  What happens?  If it's on, is it more of less bright than before?


One possibility is that these LED lights do not act like a dual filament bulb, which has a separate low power and high power filament. 
It may be that the LED light does not get brighter when the turn signal wire is activated.  One possibility is that the LED is at full brightness when the driving light signal is active, an actually turns off when the turn signal wire is "active" (12V on the red wire).  This would make it switch from full brightness to off as the turn signal wire blinks on and off. 
If this is true, it could also be true that the wiring in your bike is not providing the correct signal to turn the light on and off. 

Testing the light with only the battery should show you how it works. 
'78 Z1-R in blue, '78 Z1-R in black, '78 Z1-R in pieces
'95 GPZ1100 (sold) , '00 ZRX1100

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

led blinker issues 23 Sep 2021 14:33 #855701

  • texasfisherdude
  • texasfisherdude's Avatar Topic Author
  • Offline
  • User
  • 2 old 2 fat dont care
  • Posts: 119
  • Thank you received: 3
I have tested them and the red wire is bright and and the yellow dim on the same bulbs. This is why I think it is a power backfeed problem 
Life's to short to drink cheap beer
1980 LTD 1000

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

led blinker issues 23 Sep 2021 17:46 #855704

  • DOHC
  • DOHC's Avatar
  • Offline
  • Sustaining Member
  • Those Doe-Hawks really go!
  • Posts: 924
  • Thank you received: 299
What happens when both red and yellow are connected to 12v?  Still bright?
'78 Z1-R in blue, '78 Z1-R in black, '78 Z1-R in pieces
'95 GPZ1100 (sold) , '00 ZRX1100

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

led blinker issues 26 Sep 2021 17:00 #855818

  • texasfisherdude
  • texasfisherdude's Avatar Topic Author
  • Offline
  • User
  • 2 old 2 fat dont care
  • Posts: 119
  • Thank you received: 3
The diodes did the trick. Put them on the blinker wire 
Life's to short to drink cheap beer
1980 LTD 1000

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

  • Page:
  • 1
Powered by Kunena Forum