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kz650 electronic ignition advancer
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01 Mar 2018 14:53 - 01 Mar 2018 14:56 #779610
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I'm trying to source an electronic ignition advancer for a 79 650 LTD motor. It didn't come with an advancer so it currently has a 550 advancer. The marks are off and so the cam timing was set based on piston TDC and ignition timing is guesstimated. I'd like to avoid this uncertainty.
As far as I understand, all the 750 and 650 advancers will fit onto the crank and the timing marks will be right but the ignition timing will be different. I was thinking about getting a 1013 advancer (10-40 timing advance which is close to the 650 10-35). Another option is buying a 79 650 advancer and transferring over the 550 electronic timing cam but im not sure that it would fit like that?
As far as I understand, all the 750 and 650 advancers will fit onto the crank and the timing marks will be right but the ignition timing will be different. I was thinking about getting a 1013 advancer (10-40 timing advance which is close to the 650 10-35). Another option is buying a 79 650 advancer and transferring over the 550 electronic timing cam but im not sure that it would fit like that?
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01 Mar 2018 16:36 #779617
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01 Mar 2018 19:02 - 01 Mar 2018 22:16 #779626
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That last sentence is confusing. What do you mean? kettering?
Edit: found another listing on ebay that was hard to find for a 650 csr electronic advancer and so i grabbed that for $30. Worth it i think. Im still interested in what people have to say on this topic though.
Edit: found another listing on ebay that was hard to find for a 650 csr electronic advancer and so i grabbed that for $30. Worth it i think. Im still interested in what people have to say on this topic though.
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02 Mar 2018 07:18 - 02 Mar 2018 07:27 #779647
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Kettering is the specific type of ignition system used on many KZ models. It is named for its inventor, Charles Kettering, who also invented the electric starter and Freon. He was also, I believe, one of the founders of DELCO.
www.ratwell.com/mirror/users.mrbean.net.au/~rover/ketterin.htm
www.ratwell.com/mirror/users.mrbean.net.au/~rover/ketterin.htm
1982 KZ1000 LTD parts donor
1981 KZ1000 LTD awaiting resurrection
2000 ZRX1100 not ridden enough
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02 Mar 2018 10:34 #779654
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Ah, okay, thanks. I was just worried by the way he said the pin was rotated.
That website was an interesting read!
That website was an interesting read!
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02 Mar 2018 16:25 #779666
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It's the slot in the back of the advancer that mates with the protruding pin in the crankshaft, that's the only difference between advancers.
I had the opportunity to eyeball the kettering unit and the pick-up coil unit. The spring tensions appeared identical, the dimensions of the governor arms too.
Worthwhile noting that the rubber dampers on the governor arms have to be fairly fresh for the timing to work correctly.
The spectre advancer seemed to follow the timing curve when tested with a strobe.
I had the opportunity to eyeball the kettering unit and the pick-up coil unit. The spring tensions appeared identical, the dimensions of the governor arms too.
Worthwhile noting that the rubber dampers on the governor arms have to be fairly fresh for the timing to work correctly.
The spectre advancer seemed to follow the timing curve when tested with a strobe.
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