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IC Igniter Compatibility 21 Apr 2017 10:49 #759787

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I just recently purchased a new igniter (21119-1040) for my 81 650 CSR, but is showing signs of a possible short in one of the wires, which is causing the entire engine to cutout when moving the igniter around by hand. I'm hoping to just go ahead and buy another igniter rather than go through the entire trip and cost of moving to Dyna S, since everything works as stock perfectly (and bike is very low mileage).

I've seen several new manufactured IC igniters such as from caltric, as well as some "similar looking" IC igniters with different model numbers (such as 21119-1020). I'm wondering if I can use one of these other igniters besides the 1040 item such as the one on the kz1100? I've got the mechanical advancer underneath by the engine.

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Also, does anyone still have a copy of the GM DIY igniter? All of the old links are dead. Thanks!
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IC Igniter Compatibility 21 Apr 2017 17:47 #759849

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As long as it looks like the one in your photo, it should be swappable. Different part numbers may just be for different length wires. As long as you can splice wires, it should work.

I have a link to the GM version in my signature links. But be aware, the GM ignition modules are being designed differently now. You have to use the older type that was very common about 10 years ago. Details on how to tell the difference is also linked to from the GM project page.

EDIT: It looks like amazon web service is down, or being uncooperative. I had to reconfigure the links for some reason.

s3.amazonaws.com/gpzweb/Ignition/GPZgmHEImod.html
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IC Igniter Compatibility 21 Apr 2017 19:59 #759861

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Perfect. The link and info is appreciated!
1981 KZ650H1 CSR
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IC Igniter Compatibility 23 Nov 2019 17:19 #814421

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Is there a way to make this diy igniter for a single coil single cylinder?

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IC Igniter Compatibility 23 Nov 2019 21:20 #814431

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For single coil and cylinder igniter use the diagram for a KZ 750 twin Version.
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IC Igniter Compatibility 23 Nov 2019 21:33 #814433

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It will not work on a 1981 Kz250D2 CSR. That bike uses electronic-advance, and may actually be a CDI..

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IC Igniter Compatibility 24 Nov 2019 05:24 #814442

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I tried using a cdi not sure if it supposed to be dc or ac considering it’s full electric start with no kicker. But the stator and trigger aren’t wired together like a normal modern electronic system. And it’s throwing me off. I posted a topic about it and needing help. Lol and how the stator only has 2 yellow wires and a neutral switch wire, and the trigger has a green and red wire.
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IC Igniter Compatibility 24 Nov 2019 11:34 #814470

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There are scads of different bikes that use the same ignitor (see below.) I'd be leary of purchasing an aftermarket ignitor unless someone else has gineypiged it first.

BTW, your bike uses the same ignitor as mine. I'll be glad to test yours on my bike if you want to perform a sanity check.

This Kawasaki 21119-1040 IGNITER Not Available fits the following models and components:

Kawasaki Motorcycle 1983 Spectre - KZ550-F1 Ignition

Kawasaki Motorcycle 1981 GPz - KZ550-D1 Ignition

Kawasaki Motorcycle 1980 Classic - KZ1000-G1 Ignition

Kawasaki Motorcycle 1984 LTD Shaft - KZ550-F2 Ignition

Kawasaki Motorcycle 1983 LTD Shaft - KZ550-M1 Ignition

Kawasaki Motorcycle 1983 LTD - KZ750-H4 IGNITION ('80 H1)

Kawasaki Motorcycle 1980 LTD - KZ750-H1 IGNITION ('80 H1)

Kawasaki Motorcycle 1982 LTD - KZ750-H3 IGNITION ('80 H1)

Kawasaki Motorcycle 1981 LTD - KZ750-H2 IGNITION ('80 H1)

Kawasaki Motorcycle 1980 KZ750-E1 IGNITION ('80 KZY 50-E1)

Kawasaki Motorcycle 1981 KZ750-E2 IGNITION ('80 KZY 50-E1)

Kawasaki Motorcycle 1982 KZ750-E3 IGNITION ('80 KZY 50-E1)

Kawasaki Motorcycle 1981 KZ550-A2 IGNITION ('80-'81 A2/A3)

Kawasaki Motorcycle 1980 KZ550-A1 IGNITION ('80-'81 A2/A3)

Kawasaki Motorcycle 1982 KZ550-A3 IGNITION ('80-'81 A2/A3)

Kawasaki Motorcycle 1983 KZ550-A4 IGNITION ('80-'81 A2/A3)

Kawasaki Motorcycle 1980 LTD - KZ550-C1 IGNITION ('80-'81 C1/C2)

Kawasaki Motorcycle 1981 LTD - KZ550-C2 IGNITION ('80-'81 C1/C2)

Kawasaki Motorcycle 1983 LTD - KZ550-C4 IGNITION ('80-'81 C1/C2)

Kawasaki Motorcycle 1982 LTD - KZ550-C3 IGNITION ('80-'81 C1/C2)

Kawasaki Motorcycle 1981 KZ750-E2 IGNITION ('81 -'82 KZ750-E2/E3)

Kawasaki Motorcycle 1980 KZ750-E1 IGNITION ('81 -'82 KZ750-E2/E3)

Kawasaki Motorcycle 1982 KZ750-E3 IGNITION ('81 -'82 KZ750-E2/E3)

Kawasaki Motorcycle 1983 CSR - KZ650-H3 IGNITION ('81-'82 H1/H2)

Kawasaki Motorcycle 1982 CSR - KZ650-H2 IGNITION ('81-'82 H1/H2)

Kawasaki Motorcycle 1981 CSR - KZ650-H1 IGNITION ('81-'82 H1/H2)

Kawasaki Motorcycle 1982 LTD - KZ750-H3 IGNITION ('81-'83 H2/H3/H4)

Kawasaki Motorcycle 1980 LTD - KZ750-H1 IGNITION ('81-'83 H2/H3/H4)

Kawasaki Motorcycle 1983 LTD - KZ750-H4 IGNITION ('81-'83 H2/H3/H4)

Kawasaki Motorcycle 1981 LTD - KZ750-H2 IGNITION ('81-'83 H2/H3/H4)

Kawasaki Motorcycle 1982 KZ550-A3 IGNITION ('82-'83 A3/A4)

Kawasaki Motorcycle 1983 KZ550-A4 IGNITION ('82-'83 A3/A4)

Kawasaki Motorcycle 1980 KZ550-A1 IGNITION ('82-'83 A3/A4)

Kawasaki Motorcycle 1981 KZ550-A2 IGNITION ('82-'83 A3/A4)

Kawasaki Motorcycle 1980 LTD - KZ550-C1 IGNITION ('82-'83 C3/C4)

Kawasaki Motorcycle 1982 LTD - KZ550-C3 IGNITION ('82-'83 C3/C4)

Kawasaki Motorcycle 1983 LTD - KZ550-C4 IGNITION ('82-'83 C3/C4)

Kawasaki Motorcycle 1981 LTD - KZ550-C2 IGNITION ('82-'83 C3/C4)

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IC Igniter Compatibility 24 Nov 2019 12:34 #814472

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But my bike is an 81 KZ250 Ltd csr
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IC Igniter Compatibility 24 Nov 2019 13:04 #814473

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Here is the fitment list for the igniter on the 250CSR

www.partzilla.com/product/kawasaki/21119...890aa805716d68b32f2d

Full list price for a new one is $510. Partzilla sells them for $395.
1982 KZ1000 LTD parts donor
1981 KZ1000 LTD awaiting resurrection
2000 ZRX1100 not ridden enough

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IC Igniter Compatibility 24 Nov 2019 14:15 #814481

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As mentioned, his bike does not use the same system found on most larger Kz's. It's incompatible with those igniters.

But according to Texas's link, his bike uses one that is used on other 200's and 250's. So maybe he can score a used one from another model.
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IC Igniter Compatibility 24 Nov 2019 14:22 #814482

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My bad. Didn't recognize that we had a request inside someone else's thread. I saw the OP's signature mentioning '81 650 CSR and I thought that's what we were discussing. Never mind...
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