Kz 400 Ltd problem

Let us know if wanting to have just enough ignition wiring to start and run the engine, without needing any chassis wiring.

This would be basically a total loss ignition system without using any charging system components, as sometimes used in road racing.

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Hi guys it does have kick start and turns over with jump leads on starter motor, I'd like to know how to wire it up to start it tho just to hear it running before I start spending out on it cheers

Edgytaff wrote: Hi guys it does have kick start and turns over with jump leads on starter motor, I'd like to know how to wire it up to start it tho just to hear it running before I start spending out on it cheers

D'oh - my fault. I looked at this pic (yeah, I know) and didn't see a kickstarter. That, and I thought the LTDs in general didn't have them.

Edgytaff wrote: Hi guys it does have kick start and turns over with jump leads on starter motor, I'd like to know how to wire it up to start it tho just to hear it running before I start spending out on it cheers

The ignition coil should have a small "signal" wire attached to one of its primary terminals.
The other end of the signal wire attaches to the points or electronic ignition, stock or otherwise.

With a good fully charged battery, connect negative post to engine, and connect positive post to the other ignition coil primary terminal.

Th above is like what happens when the key is turned ON in a normal ignition switch.
So don't leave it hooked up like this with power to the ignition coil except when actively trying to start the engine -- use the kick starter -- and while the engine is running.

The signal wire serves to ground the coil through closed points or electronic ignition, stock or otherwise.
While so grounded, the ignition coil "charges" with the battery power passing through the coil

When the points open or the electronic ignition interrupts the coil's ground through the signal wire, the ignition coil becomes "ungrounded" which causes the coil to fire through the spark plug wires.

With a good fully charged battery, the engine should run for several hours.

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Thanks any idea what colour wire from coil I should connect up please

Edgytaff wrote: Thanks any idea what colour wire from coil I should connect up please

The stock wire color between the points and the ignition coil primary terminal shows as Bl -- Blue -- on the wiring diagram.

The stock wire color between the battery positive post and the other ignition coil primary terminal shows on the wiring diagram as Red/Yellow, which R/Y wiring passes through various components such as fuses, connectors and switches.
And which relatively lengthy stock wire routing is avoided entirely by using the minimal ignition-only "hot wiring" technique earlier described with a wire running directly from the the positive battery post to the ignition coil primary terminal.

The hot wire can be in your choice of color! :woohoo: :lol: :lol:

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OK il try that and let you know thanks alot you have been a big helo

Hi found a 77, kz 400 starter relay would this be the same part as on my 79 kz 400 ltd and would the regulator be ok to use please

Sorry above post it's a 75 kz 400 not 77

Could check with various parts suppliers, as they often list all models that use a particular part.
Even ebay can sometimes be helpful when a seller lists the various model applications.

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Hi tried wire straight to coil no spark any ideas please?

No fire on plugs could result from various reasons, including:
bad ignition coil;
failure in the secondary loop;
failure of points to successively ground and unground the ignition coil;
signal wire issue;
etc.

With all components and connections being good, accompanied by positive voltage from a good fully charged battery connected to the coil, and the battery negative post connected to the engine, the coil will charge while the points are closed and fire when the points open.

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