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Starter, Starter relay (solenoid) 82' KZ1000 LTD
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So if it the starter motor didn't engage, then it must be the starter that is not running.
Could be burned brushes or commutator.
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Maybe starter switch to solenoid (doubt)? Maybe something from starter to starter clutch? Something seized in that case. This has been first attempt to fix anything on my bike, so be easy on me. If I can't figure it out I will have my bike mechanic show on Tuesday.
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reel wrote: Okay update! I took the starter out and tested it by attaching batter to positive post and grounding to the casing. The starter fired right up, so then I attached it back to the starter wire that goes to solenoid attached positive post on battery and grounded to casing on starter and the starter fired up. So lets recap, not the solenoid, not wire from solenoid to starter, and not starter.
Maybe starter switch to solenoid (doubt)? Maybe something from starter to starter clutch? Something seized in that case. This has been first attempt to fix anything on my bike, so be easy on me. If I can't figure it out I will have my bike mechanic show on Tuesday.
I think you may have answered your own question in the first paragraph. What did you mention at first but then leave off the list of things to rule out? Hint: starts with a g.
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Once the engine is hot, and the starter gets hot it fails. It's a bad brush or corrosion on the contacts in the starter that's causing the issue. Not the ground.
Install everything as it was... ride it, and try to start it when it's hot again. I bet you'll still have an issue.
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Hope this helps.
Later, Doug
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Buda from the www.kzrider.com forum wrote:
Will not turn the engine over....10.25 10 1 comp 1170 cc......took starter out and ran it with a battery....the starter spins strong but starts to squeal after a second.....also the shaft has a lot of play side to side. Bad starter I’m guessing What do you guys think?
Took the starter apart.....the bushing on the drive end is cracked
MFolks Wrote:
For a stronger starter motor, read this:
Using a Honda Mitsuba SM-220 Starter in the Kz (copied from the KZ rider website)
The CB F's used 2 different starters. Look for the one marked .8kw. They also have one that is .7kw. This owner noticed a difference when he installed his. He read that you can remove the outer housing, and rotate it. this will re-align the outer power terminal, to a better location. if you don’t do this, you will need to grind some metal from the chain cover to gain clearance. Also install a heavier gauge wire to the starter , I’d recommend 6 AWG(American Wire Gauge) welding cable with the correct terminal ends to match the treaded studs for the solenoid and starter motor. Don’t forget the cable from the battery to the solenoid.
The stock KZ starter is .6kw in size
www.stockers.com/index.php?dt=HS-29 (Mitsuba SM-220)
Buda Wrote:
Thanks MFolks, Just ordered the rebuild kit before I read your post....If that doesn't work out I'll give the Honda starter a shot.
Got a the Honda starter MFolks recommended (SM 220 12 volt 0.8 KW) on ebay...hell of a difference.....Turns over like the plugs are missing....I'm sure the new battery doesn't hurt, but its a hell of a difference.
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