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16 Aug 2014 14:36 #644196 by kzdcw
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77' KZ1000A . Even though I'll be a little incapacitated a little while I wait surgery to repair a completely torn Quadricep Tendon, I still like to hopple along and work on my bike. Mounted the handlebar switches. When plugging in the male bullet connectors into the wiring harness, I had 1 Solid Blue bullet male connector left out of 8 coming from the Left Control and 1 Solid Black bullet male connector out of 5 coming from the Right Control. Nothing to plug into for these 2 male connectors? Any ideas where they go? Matched all color to color connectors, but no 2 female connectors found? Looked at the wiring diagram, but couldn't tell where they go from it?

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17 Aug 2014 04:42 #644243 by martin_csr
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Do you have a wiring diagram handy? There's one in the filebase for the A3, but it's not working on my computer. Are you sure the unused connectors are from the handlebar switch? Asking the 2nd question because my bike has a spare/accessory blue-white wire & black-yellow wire in the headlight bucket. Next question, how did you manage to get an injury like that? ... sounds painful. :ohmy: :pinch: :)

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17 Aug 2014 08:26 - 17 Aug 2014 08:28 #644248 by kzdcw
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Martin, Yes those 2 wires are coming from the Handlebar Switches. The R switch has 5 wires: Brn, Brn/Wh, Yl/Rd, Bl/Wh, and the "lone" Black? The & switch has 8 wires: Rd/Bk, Rd/Yl, Gy, Bk/Wh, Or, Or/Gn, Gn, and the "lone" dark Blue? Just don't see at least in that general vicinity where those 2 wires would plug into? Injury, been a competitve Bodybuilder/Powerlifter for years. Was leg pressing when it happened. Yes, quite uncomfortable. Awaiting surgery next Wed. Thanks for looking at the post.

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17 Aug 2014 18:05 #644293 by Patton
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Looking at the wiring diagram, am thinking black wire from right handlebar switch with male bullet is from starter button, and plugs into female connector on black wire from clutch lockout switch (probably near clutch lever). When the clutch lever is squeezed, the clutch lockout switch allows battert+ voltage to the starter relay.

And that the blue wire from left handlebar switch with male bullet plugs into female connector on blue wire from 4p connector from 10a fuse. The blue wire provides battery+ voltage to the dimmer switch which directs the voltage to either the bright or dim filament in the headlight bulb.

Here's a direct link to the 1977 KZ1000A wiring diagram in the FILEBASE:
www.kzrider.com/filebase/search/finish/1-general/246-z1000a1

At least that's how I'm reading the wiring diagram.

Is the headlight functioning normally, with both bright and dim lights?

Is the starter functioning normally, with the clutch lever being squeezed?

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17 Aug 2014 18:55 #644298 by kzdcw
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Patton, The Clutch Lever switch has 2 Black "Female" bullet connectors wires approximately 20"in length. That's probably where the Black male wire from the R handlebar switch plugs into?

And the Blue male wire from the L handlebar switch probably plugs into the Blue " female" bullet connector in the same proximity as all the other wires are plugging into at the harness under the tank? What thru me off a little was the the Blue colors are "different"? One is Dark Blue from the switch, the other is Light Blue at the Harness.

Now there's another Black "male" bullet connector at this harness connection. I'm assuming it the "other" black wire that plugs into the Clutch switch?

If I'm right, there remains 1 "female" Brown connector left at the Harness under the tank. Any idea on that one?

Patton, I certainly appreciate the time you've given me on this Post. It pointed me in the right direction.

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17 Aug 2014 18:57 #644300 by kzdcw
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Patton, I forgot to mention. This is a non-running bike I purchased a while back that I'm trying to resurrect after 20+ of non-operation.

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18 Aug 2014 06:16 - 18 Aug 2014 06:28 #644339 by Patton
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kzdcw wrote: ... Clutch Lever switch has 2 Black "Female" bullet connectors wires approximately 20"in length. That's probably where the Black male wire from the R handlebar switch plugs into?... there remains 1 "female" Brown connector left at the Harness under the tank. Any idea on that one?....

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Clutch Lever switch has 2 Black "Female" bullet connectors wires approximately 20"in length. That's probably where the Black male wire from the R handlebar switch plugs into?. --- Yes, and the other black wire from the clutch lever switch goes to the starter relay (see wiring diagram).

there remains 1 "female" Brown connector left at the Harness under the tank. Any idea on that one? --- Brown wires are "hot" wires providing battery+ voltage when the ignition switch is ON. An existing "unused" brown wire female connector is probably for an accessory. For example, it could be used to provide battery+ voltage to a Dyna-S ignition (via the red wire into the Dyna-S).

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18 Aug 2014 07:56 - 18 Aug 2014 07:56 #644345 by kzdcw
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Patton, With your Help, I'm pretty sure my connections are correct. I'll double check and see. Again, I appreciate the help you've given me !

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18 Aug 2014 10:32 #644356 by MFolks
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Do this for electrical reliability:

Cleaning Motorcycle Electrics

Get some of the De-Oxit electrical contact cleaner and figure on spending a good day going from the front of the bike to the back. It’s a plastic safe cleaner/preservative. www.deoxit.com is their website.

On the older Kawasaki's, a majority of electrical connectors are inside the headlight housing requiring removal of the headlight, then the fun begins.

Do one set of electrical connectors at a time to avoid mixing up what connects to where. Usually disconnecting, spraying with De-Oxit and reconnecting is about all you'll need.

However, when encountering the green crud of corrosion, a brass wire brush may be needed on the pins you can reach.
Some 400-600 grit wet and dry sandpaper strips rolled into a tube should reach the male and female pins in the more difficult to clean connectors.

Smoker’s pipe cleaners, cotton swabs and wooden toothpicks work as cleaning aids.

Really small electrical connectors may require the use of a welders tip cleaning tool assortment.

Most pins in the connectors are coated with a thin plating of tin, and others may be nothing more than copper or brass.

If moisture is added, the resulting corrosion lowers the voltage/current being carried causing dim lights, slow engine cranking, slow turn signal response and lower input voltage to the ignition coils resulting in weak spark.

The left and right handlebar switch pods will need attention too as they have circuit functions like turn, horn, run/stop, and start.

Usually a spritz or two with actuation of the switch is about all needed for these switches unless corrosion is detected and then careful disassembly is required.

The ignition switch may or may be not sealed to allow spraying the internal contacts. I urge caution if attempting to open this up as springs, and ball bearings may fly out never to be seen again!

If your bike has the older style glass tubed fuses, I suggest replacing them as vibration can cause internal failure. AGX is the type used, and most auto parts stores can get them for you.

Clean the fuse holder clips, looking for signs of overheating(discolored insulation, signs of melting).
I use metal polish on a cotton swab, followed by spraying another clean swab with the De-Oxit and then rubbing the inside of the fuse clip.

All battery cables must be clean and tight for maximum current transfer. Check the cables going from the Negative(-) battery terminal/post to the engine mounting bolt

Also the one going from the Positive(+) terminal to the starter solenoid and from there to the starter motor.

If any battery cable feels ”Crunchy” when flexed, replace it as possible corrosion is inside the insulation.

Each "Bullet Connector" will have to be sprayed to ensure good connectivity, especially the ones going to the energizing coil of the starter solenoid.

The alternator output “Bullet Connectors” are usually behind the engine sprocket cover and will need inspecting and cleaning too.

The turn signal light sockets will benefit from a spritz from the contact cleaner along with the tail light/brake light socket.

Some brake light switches can be sprayed on the actuating rod, with the spray running down inside to the electrical contacts, others may be sealed requiring replacement if the switch is intermittent in operation.

Some people put the Di-Electric Grease on cleaned terminations/connectors, I don’t, as I’ve read/heard it can cause problems when it gets hot, actually insulating the connections, so the choice is yours to use or not.

I think I've covered about all of the electrical systems on the bike.........


“I spent a weekend going through every electrical connection and switch on the bike with a little scotchbrite pad and DeOxit - what a difference! Everything was brighter, gauge backlights, indicator lights, turn signals, I was getting a nicer spark, it fired up quicker, etc. Well worth my time. WELL worth it! “
From a forum member at www.kzrider.com


Re: Cleaning the many and various Motorcycle electrics.
I used the De-oxit D-5 spray on all the electrical connections of my 78 Kz1000 that had sat for twenty years .

When I parked the bike in 92 I was starting to have troubles with some of the electrical system, but after pulling everything apart and giving it a spray , reconnecting the connectors and working them back and forth a few times, then gave them another shot of spray to wash them off before the final reconnection.

Everything still works perfectly and has for over 7000 miles this year.

I am extremely happy with the results , a lot of the connectors were green when I started and after the cleaning they looked new ( shiny gold )

I found the Deoxit D-series, D-5 spray in a 4 oz can at a big electronics store called Frys in Illinois, don't get the small cans at Radio Shack , they are different and meant for computer type stuff.

store.caig.com/s.nl/sc.2/category.188/.f


Great stuff
The scroll ball on my apple mouse decided not to work after two years of service. Used all kinds of cleaners to free it up. Nothing worked. Then remembered my can of DeoxIT. Sprayed a small amount on it, scrolled it a few times and all kinds of crud came off of it. It works perfectly now. Thanks DeoxIT !!!!


Excellent contact cleaner from audio to ac power contacts
I've been an A/V Tech-Roadie for over 30 years and have used Deoxit since it was first introduced. I've cleaned /rejuvenated volume controls,switches and audio connections on everything from guitar amps to full blown recording consoles. It not only cleans mild to excessive corrosion but the lubricant keeps the part in good working order months afterwards. Much easier than replacing a hard to replace part. I also spray it on all the audio connectors periodically to insure good connectivity. Along with my A.C. power plugs and quad boxes that are used outside for live shows to prevent corrosion from the elements.
Good stuff. Obviously highly recommended.


Great Stuff
I used this stuff on my 35 year old Kenwood KA-7300 amp which had not been used in more than 10 years and it was fantastic. When I first tried to use the amp, all of the switches only worked sometimes and the static and inconsisyent sound was unbearable. I thought that my left channel was not working because it had such a low output compared tothe right channel no matter where the balance was set. After cleaning all the input/ and output jacks and the switches alog with vacuuming out the inside of the amp, the amp works great and sounds like it did back in the day! I was more than pleasantly surprised!!



I've used DeoxIT for years. My first use was on a BMW instrument cluster that an $800 "reno" hadn't fixed. I sprayed the several connectors and mates, dozens and dozens of connectors, let it sit overnight and reinstalled it in the car. That cured every problem. Years after manufacture one or more of those connections could get iffy, and they do. Since then I've fixed several instrument clusters, engine and transmission computer problems caused by the same thing, connections, and no telling how many other electrical connection problems in cars.

An Effective cleaner-rejuvinator!
I used this to clean the pots, switches, and faders on my old Allen & Heath SR416 mixer. Everything is working top-notch again and everything moves/slides with ease. DeoxIT is a great product and it always improves sound quality and equipment life. This is the only cleaner you need!

Trust MFolks , the guy's a true rocket scientist and really knows what he's talking about.
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18 Aug 2014 15:46 #644377 by kzdcw
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Interesting read. Never have used De-Oxit but seems like a good product. Have been using Electronic Spray cleaner made by CRC that seems to work okay. Also using a clean Scotch-Brite too for all the contacts.

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