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10 Jun 2014 16:38 #636084 by Lapp3591
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So I'm new to motorcycles but would think batteries are the same no matter what. I just replaced the battery in my KZ750 LTD and every time I go to connect the terminals the batter arcs! I don't want to fry any electronics so I just have up for now. Is there something I'm not doing? I have + connected to + and - to - ....

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10 Jun 2014 16:44 #636085 by 650ed
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Stop trying to hook it up before you do damage; something is wrong. Assuming your ignition key is in the "OFF" position, there should be no spark when hooking up the battery. Use a meter and find out where the problem is. It sounds like you have a short in the bike's wiring. Ed

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10 Jun 2014 17:40 - 10 Jun 2014 17:44 #636089 by 4TheKZ1000
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check this out.

I have seen batteries that switch orientation of positive - negative posts.

If your old battery had positive towards solenoid or left side, the new battery might be negative on left post.

Not calling you blind or stupid, just have seen and heard it done. You just might assume the battery is 100% the same as the old one and hook it up like it was.

good luck
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11 Jun 2014 06:11 #636117 by Lapp3591
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Thanks guys! I tried reversing polarity and got nothing. The bike started with the old battery, but the old battery was on it last leg. The ignition was off. The battery is a duralast 12v from autozone. I absolutely hate electronics and wiring so I'll have to have someone take a look at it for me. Thank you for the help!

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11 Jun 2014 08:17 #636135 by 4TheKZ1000
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I have a AutoZone mat battery, came in a red box. It has worked out great.

The guys at AutoZone will help you if you get the bike and battery there.

Well I hope you stick around and post some pics, I'm sure you will have other questions.

Your welcome any time.

Good luck

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11 Jun 2014 08:43 #636141 by Lapp3591
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Ok so here's the update as of now. There are two wires going from the negative post. One gives power to all the electronics and they all work as they should. The other just makes it spark like crazy and one wire started to smoke. The starter clicks so now I'm assuming the relay might be bad? The wire that smokes looks like it may have been tampered with before...I'm at a total loss

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11 Jun 2014 09:10 #636146 by Patton
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Lapp3591 wrote: ... The bike started with the old battery... The ignition was off....


During the process of disconnecting the positive cable from the old battery, and holding the cable out of the way while installing the new battery, and then connecting the cable to the new battery, perhaps a short was created between the cable or its attendant wiring and a frame fitting such as the battery box or other ground.

Good Fortune! :)

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11 Jun 2014 10:14 - 11 Jun 2014 10:17 #636153 by 4TheKZ1000
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There are two wires going from the negative post. One gives power to all the electronics

This could be a problem. The negative wire doesn't power the electronics.

The positive "+" or red wire powers the electronics.

The negative "-" or black is the battery and chassis ground only.
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11 Jun 2014 10:33 #636156 by Patton
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What is the year and specific model of the kZ750 LTD at hand?

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Regarding the negative battery cable, would check to see where it's attached to the engine or maybe to the frame.

Usually there's only one cable attached to the battery's negative post, with the other end attached to the engine or the frame.

I suppose it would be possible to have the cable from the negative battery post connect to both the engine and the frame, whereby the engine connection would assure an optimal ignition ground and the frame connection would assure an optimal chassis ground, and which would eliminate the possibility of any conductivity issue between engine and chassis.

Good Fortune! :)

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11 Jun 2014 14:37 #636197 by Lapp3591
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Thanks everyone! It is a 1980 KZ750 LTD. I will snap some pictures of the battery/wiring tmrw to see if that helps!

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11 Jun 2014 15:03 - 11 Jun 2014 15:03 #636203 by Patton
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Lapp3591 wrote: Thanks everyone! It is a 1980 KZ750 LTD. I will snap some pictures of the battery/wiring tmrw to see if that helps!




Good Fortune! :)

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11 Jun 2014 18:12 #636229 by bountyhunter
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I thought the 80 LTD 750 was a twin.

1979 KZ-750 Twin

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