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05 May 2014 11:34 #631407 by rlcarter
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i want to put new coils on my 1980 G. i understand i can do away with the voltage resistor if i go with dyna or andrews ect. is there anything else i need to know.

1980 KZ1000 G w/carbs..

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05 May 2014 11:49 #631409 by koolaid_kid
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If you have electronic ignition you want the green Dyna coils (3 Ohms). If you have points you want the black ones (5 Ohms), or the green ones with ballast resistors if you plan on going to an electronic ignition later on.
What you do not want is the green ones without the ballast resistors on a points ignition.

1983 GPz 750
810 Wiseco, Kerker, K&N, DynoJet S3, Accel, Progressive, etc.

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05 May 2014 11:57 #631410 by rlcarter
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i have factory electronic ignition . so i want the green 3 ohm.? this doesnt effect the ignitor ?

1980 KZ1000 G w/carbs..

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05 May 2014 12:02 #631411 by rlcarter
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i have factory electronic ignition . so i want the green 3 ohm.? this doesnt effect the ignitor ?

1980 KZ1000 G w/carbs..

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05 May 2014 12:18 #631417 by Cynjut
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I don't think there's a situation (with this engine and ignition system) that you want Dyna Green 3.0 ohms - I used Grays (3.3 ohm) after measuring the resistance on the primaries of my coils. If you don't want to use the "original equipment" 3.3s, go up to the next level: the 5 ohm.

1977 KZ-1000 A1
1982 KZ-1000 M2 Frankenbike

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05 May 2014 13:16 #631424 by bountyhunter
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Cynjut wrote: I don't think there's a situation (with this engine and ignition system) that you want Dyna Green 3.0 ohms - I used Grays (3.3 ohm) after measuring the resistance on the primaries of my coils. If you don't want to use the "original equipment" 3.3s, go up to the next level: the 5 ohm.


There are standard 4 Ohm coils available from Z1 for $36 each.

1979 KZ-750 Twin

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05 May 2014 13:29 #631425 by rlcarter
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i guess i am a little confused. i read from earlier posts that if you have electronic ignition use 3 ohm if you have points use 4 ohm.

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05 May 2014 13:47 #631426 by MFolks
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I'd first check the input voltage to the ignition coils. Here's how to do it:

Testing Kawasaki and other brands of Motorcycle Ignition Coils For Input Voltage

When voltage testing Kawasaki and other brands of Ignition Coils, the following needs to be done:

1. Remove the fuel/gas tank to access the coils.

2. Fully charge the battery.

3. Using a multimeter, set it up for VDC(Volts, Direct Current), range of 20.

4. Turn on the ignition switch and the run/stop switch to “Run”.

5. Put the multimeter’s RED probe on where the red or red/yellow wire goes on the ignition coil.

6. Put the multimeter’s BLACK probe on either the battery Negative(-) post/terminal or a good frame ground.

7. You should be able to see battery voltage at the ignition coil connection, but this depends on the current draw of other items in the same circuit.

8. If the tested voltage is down to 8-9 volts, you probably need to clean the many and various electrical connectors.

9. To check the spark output at the sparkplugs, use Ignition Spark Testers. Instead of grounding the sparkplug with the sparkplug wire attached, looking for a spark. This method puts the IC Igniter and ignition coils at risk of failure due to high currents, and possible internal shorting.

These bikes have a 5000 ohm, non-replaceable resistor in the sparkplug caps. They go bad from heat, vibration and age. New ones are available at most Japanese motorcycle stores, or through Z1 Enterprises, Inc. - Specializing in Vintage Japanese Motorcycle Parts, including New Old Stock & aftermarket parts. www.z1enterprises.com is their website.

1982 GPZ1100 B2
General Dynamics/Convair 1983-1993
GLCM BGM-109 Tomahawk, AGM-129A Advanced Cruise Missile (ACM)

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05 May 2014 13:49 #631427 by MFolks
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If the voltages check low(10 volts D.C. or less), do this:

Cleaning Motorcycle Electrics

Get some of the De-Oxit DN5 electrical contact cleaner and figure on spending a good day going from the front of the bike to the back. It’s a plastic safe cleaner/preservative. www.deoxit.com is their website, and can be purchased at most electronic supply stores.

On the older Kawasaki's, and other makes, a majority of electrical connectors are inside the headlight housing requiring removal of the headlight, then the fun begins.

Do one set of electrical connectors at a time to avoid mixing up what connects to where. Usually disconnecting, spraying with De-Oxit DN5 and reconnecting is about all you'll need.

However, when encountering the green crud of corrosion, a brass wire brush may be needed on the pins you can reach. Some 400-600 grit wet and dry sandpaper strips rolled into a tube should reach the male and female pins in the more difficult to clean connectors.

Smoker’s pipe cleaners, cotton swabs and wooden toothpicks work as cleaning aids.

Really small electrical connectors may require the use of a welders tip cleaning tool assortment.

Most pins in the connectors are coated with a thin plating of tin, and others may be nothing more than copper or brass.

If moisture is added, the resulting corrosion lowers the voltage/current being carried causing dim lights, slow engine cranking, slow turn signal response and lower input voltage to the ignition coils resulting in weak spark.

The left and right handlebar switch pods will need attention too as they have circuit functions like turn, horn, run/stop, and start. If you discover the soldered connections at the switches are crumbling, I’ve got a repair procedure for this, just ask.

Usually a spritz or two with actuation of the switch is about all needed for these switches unless corrosion is detected and then careful disassembly is required.

The ignition switch may or may be not sealed to allow spraying the internal contacts. I urge caution if attempting to open this up as springs, and ball bearings may fly out never to be seen again!

If your bike has the older style glass tubed fuses, I suggest replacing them as vibration can cause internal failure. AGX is the type used, and most auto parts stores can get them for you.

Clean the fuse holder clips, looking for signs of overheating(discolored insulation, signs of melting). I use metal polish on a cotton swab, followed by spraying another clean swab with the De-Oxit DN5 and then rubbing the inside of the fuse clip.

All battery cables must be clean and tight for maximum current transfer. Check the cables going from the Negative(-) battery terminal/post to the engine mounting bolt

Also the one going from the Positive(+) terminal to the starter solenoid and from there to the starter motor.

If any battery cable feels ”Crunchy” when flexed, replace it as possible corrosion is inside the insulation.

Each "Bullet Connector" will have to be sprayed to ensure good connectivity, especially the ones going to the energizing coil of the starter solenoid.

The alternator output “Bullet Connectors” are usually behind the engine sprocket cover and will need inspecting and cleaning too.

The turn signal light sockets will benefit from a spritz from the contact cleaner along with the tail light/brake light socket.

Some brake light switches can be sprayed on the actuating rod, with the spray running down inside to the electrical contacts, others may be sealed requiring replacement if the switch is intermittent in operation.

Some people put the Di-Electric Grease on cleaned terminations/connectors, I don’t, as I’ve read/heard it can cause problems when it gets hot, actually insulating the connections, so the choice is yours to use or not.

I think I've covered about all of the electrical systems on the bike.........


“I spent a weekend going through every electrical connection and switch on the bike with a little scotchbrite pad and DeOxit - what a difference! Everything was brighter, gauge backlights, indicator lights, turn signals, I was getting a nicer spark, it fired up quicker, etc. Well worth my time. WELL worth it! “
From a forum member at www.kzrider.com


Re: Cleaning the many and various Motorcycle electrics.
I used the De-oxit D-5 spray on all the electrical connections of my 78 Kz1000 that had sat for twenty years .

When I parked the bike in 92 I was starting to have troubles with some of the electrical system, but after pulling everything apart and giving it a spray , reconnecting the connectors and working them back and forth a few times, then gave them another shot of spray to wash them off before the final reconnection.

Everything still works perfectly and has for over 7000 miles this year.

I am extremely happy with the results , a lot of the connectors were green when I started and after the cleaning they looked new ( shiny gold )

I found the Deoxit D-series, D-5 spray in a 4 oz can at a big electronics store called Frys in Illinois, don't get the small cans at Radio Shack , they are different and meant for computer type stuff.

store.caig.com/s.nl/sc.2/category.188/.f

Trust MFolks , the guy's a true rocket scientist and really knows what he's talking about.
JD

Use Deoxit DN5 on new or restored electrical contacts to condition them against future corrosion. Deoxit DN5 dissolves oxidation and corrosion on metal surfaces, fills in microscopic gaps and reseals surfaces for better electrical conductivity.

VOC and RoHS compliant
Nonflammable, quick-drying, non-dripping, and safe on plastics
Reduces arcing, RFI, wear and abrasion

Brand: Caig Laboratories
Model: DN5S-6N

Specifications: Net weight: 5.75 oz. (163g)

1982 GPZ1100 B2
General Dynamics/Convair 1983-1993
GLCM BGM-109 Tomahawk, AGM-129A Advanced Cruise Missile (ACM)

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05 May 2014 14:40 #631430 by koolaid_kid
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Cynjut wrote: I don't think there's a situation (with this engine and ignition system) that you want Dyna Green 3.0 ohms - I used Grays (3.3 ohm) after measuring the resistance on the primaries of my coils. If you don't want to use the "original equipment" 3.3s, go up to the next level: the 5 ohm.

This is incorrect.

rlcarter wrote: i guess i am a little confused. i read from earlier posts that if you have electronic ignition use 3 ohm if you have points use 4 ohm.

This is correct.

1983 GPz 750
810 Wiseco, Kerker, K&N, DynoJet S3, Accel, Progressive, etc.

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05 May 2014 16:58 #631443 by rlcarter
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thanks guys i will go thru my connections

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