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24 Feb 2014 10:24 - 15 Jul 2014 05:58 #623181 by Troyn
Ignition or fuel was created by Troyn
Hey all. Posting under carb and ignition sections. I've searched extensively too. :)

I get a wavering tach needle sometimes just cruising around 4K RPM, at which time the motor is running smoothly. I just noticed this riding in this morning so it may point to an ignition issue.

I know there are a lot of diagnostics to run but thoughts, gut feel, etc.? Thanks!

1983 kz750 ltd shaft, 4-cyl, stock everything :)
Last edit: 15 Jul 2014 05:58 by Troyn.

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24 Feb 2014 12:33 #623196 by bountyhunter
Replied by bountyhunter on topic Ignition or fuel problem, hesitation
If it's carbs, it sounds like main jets. Can't tell if your bike has stock pipes and airbox? Would also make sure timing advancer is releasing correctly.

1979 KZ-750 Twin

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24 Feb 2014 13:53 - 15 Jul 2014 06:11 #623200 by Troyn
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Yup I checked timing and the advancer, and my bike is pretty much all stock.

1983 kz750 ltd shaft, 4-cyl, stock everything :)
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24 Feb 2014 14:04 #623202 by 650ed
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It could be dirty carbs. When did the problem start? Was the bike running well on a regular basis and then one day the problem just popped up? Prior to the problem starting did the bike sit unused for more than a couple weeks? Ed

1977 KZ650-C1 Original Owner - Stock (with additional invisible FIAMM horn)

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24 Feb 2014 14:10 - 15 Jul 2014 06:14 #623203 by Troyn
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I've only owned the bike for a short time and only recently tried running it up to redline (it needed front suspension work, brakes rebuilt, mc replaced, etc so was hesitant to push it much!). Since I've owned it I've run it regularly.

1983 kz750 ltd shaft, 4-cyl, stock everything :)
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24 Feb 2014 14:11 - 15 Jul 2014 06:10 #623204 by Troyn
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I'll go through the ignition system next. It's running ok while the tach is fluctuating so maybe just the tach.

1983 kz750 ltd shaft, 4-cyl, stock everything :)
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24 Feb 2014 14:18 #623205 by loudhvx
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If you have a kickstand switch, that can sometims cause ignition stumbles from the switch vibrating.

The switch is designed to kill the ignition if the kickstand is down when the bike is in gear. When the switch, or kisckstand vibrates, the switch acts like it's down.

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24 Feb 2014 14:25 - 15 Jul 2014 06:09 #623206 by Troyn
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Interesting, I'll have to check that. I don't think my switch works but I'll check before I ride home!

1983 kz750 ltd shaft, 4-cyl, stock everything :)
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24 Feb 2014 14:34 #623207 by 650ed
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Troyn wrote: I've only owned the bike for a short time and only recently tried running it up to redline (it needed front suspension work, brakes rebuilt, mc replaced, etc so was hesitant to push it much!). Since I've owned it I've run it regularly.


It's possible the previous owner let the bike sit for a while with fuel in the carbs - not a good thing to do. I would drop the bowls off the carb bottoms and see if everything looks squeaky clean up in the carbs and in the bowls (a mirror and small flashlight will help). You should be able to do this with the carbs still on the bike. If things inside the carbs don't look really clean I would pull the carbs and clean them. Ed

1977 KZ650-C1 Original Owner - Stock (with additional invisible FIAMM horn)

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24 Feb 2014 15:55 #623214 by bountyhunter
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If you haven't cleaned the fuel system, that's #1. Take the tank off and rinse it out with clean solvent or gas. Clean the petcock assy, install or replace fuel filters. You can rinse the carbs out from the top: remove the drain screws and shoot carb cleaner down through the fuel lines. Replace screws and fill carbs with liquid cleaner like gumout and let sit for a couple of days, then rinse again. That will remove some of the built up varnish and make it run better. You can also add cleaner to the gas like Seafoam. If you still have problems, carbs have to be taken off and cleaned/rebuilt.

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