Bat keeps going dead/old alarm screwing with me

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24 Jan 2014 04:37 #619860 by 771000LTD
I everyone,

I am working on 1996 ninja 1000.I would get it all back together and it would run fine.(new bat)
Next day bat was dead, The bike had an alarm but i think i got all of the bits off. When i was trouble shooting i found that with the relay in place and the neg batt lead touching the bat post the relay open/close removed when i re installed the bat i heard a click,like a relay closing I traced this the round relay in the fuse box for lights. the key was off and no lights came on. after a while it started getting warmer

If it was a dead short wouldn't that cause the main to faill?

Help shine some light on my project

Steve

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24 Jan 2014 10:23 #619897 by MFolks
Use this method of troubleshooting:

The Dreaded Shorting/Intermittent Electrical Problem!

Here is the most basic method I know(Taken from www.kzrider.com by member Patton)

1. Charge your battery and have it load tested if you can. The floating ball hydrometer can be used to check the specific gravity of the charged cells in the battery.

2. Disconnect the Black lead from the (-) Battery terminal... or Red from the (+) Battery terminal, it does not matter which one.

3. Connect one of the following test setups in series with the Battery terminal and lead:
3.1 A 12 V light bulb,
3.2 A 12 V test light,
3.3 A 12 V test buzzer or,
3.4 A 12 V horn... you get the idea.

4. With the Ignition Switch OFF, go through your harness and wiggle the wires while looking/listening for the test setup to go on/start buzzing.

5.With the Ignition Switch ON, repeat the test except this time the looking/listening for the test setup to go on/stop buzzing.

6. Be prepared to open the Ignition switch and check/test for solder joint failure and or circuit board micro breaks (don't ask how I know this ).

7. Be prepared to pull the wires out of the Head Light to test for failures at or near the grommet.

8. Be prepared to open the harness at or near the Steering Neck for failures. This is where wires tend to exhibit fatigue due to repetitive movement.

9. Be prepared to open the left and right switch gear to search for rust and or broken parts. CAUTION: watch out for flying springs, ball bearings and stuff. Do indoors on White sheet (again don't ask ).

10. Be prepared to follow the heavy gauge wire from the Starter Solenoid (Relay) to the starter for bare wire exposure. Especially near bends and grommets.

11. If you can reproduce the fault symptom your are pretty much home free. Be prepare to find and repair/replace any internal wire breaks, insulation break downs, exposed wires, rubber grommet failures, etc. Often, shrink tubing will solve the problem temporarily until something better can be done.

12. I use a very good electrical contact cleaner/preservative called De-oxit made by Caig Labs in San Diego Ca. Their website is www.deoxit.com It can be purchased at Radio Shack and any other electronic supply store. I use it on all of my motorcycle’s electrical connectors , in my home entertainment center’s stereo patch cords and cordless phones charging cradles.

1982 GPZ1100 B2
General Dynamics/Convair 1983-1993
GLCM BGM-109 Tomahawk, AGM-129A Advanced Cruise Missile (ACM)

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24 Jan 2014 13:00 - 24 Jan 2014 13:01 #619909 by bountyhunter
Replied by bountyhunter on topic Bat keeps going dead/old alarm screwing with me

771000LTD wrote: I everyone,

I am working on 1996 ninja 1000.I would get it all back together and it would run fine.(new bat)
Next day bat was dead, The bike had an alarm but i think i got all of the bits off. When i was trouble shooting i found that with the relay in place and the neg batt lead touching the bat post the relay open/close removed when i re installed the bat i heard a click,like a relay closing I traced this the round relay in the fuse box for lights. the key was off and no lights came on. after a while it started getting warmer

If it was a dead short wouldn't that cause the main to faill?

Help shine some light on my project

Steve

Yes, a dead short would probably blow a fuse or cook a wire. But it sounds like you have a relay coil energizing without the key which leaves a drain on the battery and kills it after it sits overnight. You need to find the path that is giving power to that relay coil.

1979 KZ-750 Twin
Last edit: 24 Jan 2014 13:01 by bountyhunter.

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