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01 Oct 2013 18:10 - 01 Oct 2013 18:11 #608481 by klkoehler83
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I recently replaced my regulator and rectifier on my 76 kz900 with a combo unit because the old stuff crapped out. Unfortunately it still seems to be overcharging(16.8V@4krpm). The new unit has three yellow wires that go to the stator two reds that are positive(ran to the positive terminal of battery) and two green wires that are negative(to ground). Where is my problem? I could really use some advice because I don't want to fry any of my components and would really like to enjoy the last couple months of riding before snow! :(
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01 Oct 2013 22:54 #608515 by Motor Head
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First check all the connections you made. But I suspect you have a bad battery, have it tested. The charging system needs to have a battery in good condition to work properly.

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01 Oct 2013 23:21 #608522 by klkoehler83
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It' a new trugel, and it tested good. Could it be the stator?

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01 Oct 2013 23:30 - 02 Oct 2013 09:21 #608523 by Motor Head
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The stator is capable of making AC voltage. The Rectifier converts that to DC Voltage. The regulator is what sets the charging voltage. But it senses the voltage that is on the system and battery. You say the New Combo unit has 2 red + wires? Where are they connected? Both straight to Battery + or through another wire/ circuit?
Pictures or the connections, and the Brand/ Model of the combo unit would be great.
With 2 Red Wires and 2 Green wires, I'd check with the R/R manufacturer for proper hook up and testing/ diagnosis. I'm wondering if that is the correct one for your KZ, permanent magnet 3 phase system.
Here you find the correct one:http://oregonmotorcycleparts.com/VRRPM.html


1982 KZ1000LTD K2 Vance & Hines 4-1 ACCEL COILS Added Vetter fairing & Bags. FOX Racing rear Shocks, Braced Swing-arm, Fork Brace, Progressive Fork Springs RT Gold Emulators, APE Valve Springs, 1166 Big Bore kit, RS34's, GPZ cams.
1980 KZ550LTD C1 Stock SOLD Miss it
1979 MAZDA RX7 in the works, 13B...
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02 Oct 2013 00:07 #608526 by 650ed
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klkoehler83 wrote: It' a new trugel, and it tested good. Could it be the stator?


Since you are seeing 16.8 volts the stator is working. Ed

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02 Oct 2013 08:20 - 02 Oct 2013 10:47 #608538 by Old Man Rock
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1976 KZ900
Combo R&R unit....

EDIT: I'm with Motor Head on the 2 red conductors to the Battery doesn't make sense...
In this case, you'd have no load thus possibly higher Vdc output!

Same time, as already mentioned definitely confirm with the manufacturer...

As in my combo unit (Z1 Ent), Should be the following,
3 conductors to Dynamo (yellow)
1 conductor to the ignition switch output(red or brown)
1 conductor to the battery (white) add in line 10amp fuse!
1 conductor to ground (Black)



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1976 KZ900-A4
MTC 1075cc.
Camshafts: Kawi GPZ-1100 .375 lift
Head: P&P via Larry Cavanaugh
ZX636 suspension
MIKUNI, RS-34'S...
Kerker 4-1, 1.5" comp baffle.
Dyna-S E.I.
Earls 10 row Oil Cooler
Acewell 2802 Series Speedo/Tach
Innovate LC1 Wideband 02 AFR meter

Phoenix, Az
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02 Oct 2013 13:11 #608571 by klkoehler83
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Great diagrams thanks.I figured it out this morning. Had a similar problem to this with an old shovelhead that i recalled last night, new regulator still overcharging. Ended up being the stator was going bad. She is running and charging perfectly now. Thanks for the input guys. :laugh:

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