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Stumped. Spark, compression and fuel. Bike no run.
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15 Aug 2013 22:43 #601622
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My wife's 77 KZ 400 was running just fine last year when she tipped it over and popped a hole through the clutch cover. I had to remove the ignition timing system to replace the cover, and when I put it all back together, the bike wouldn't start.
I"m following the manual's directions, setting the points gap and aligning the "F" mark with the opening of the points. The plugs are sparking. There's compression. I sprayed starting fluid in the carbs, so there's fuel.
The only thing that seemed weird was that the "F" mark arrived at a point of rotation where it was really easy to turn the crankshaft, leading me to think that it's sparking when the piston is down and there's no compression in the cylinder.
What am I missing?
I"m following the manual's directions, setting the points gap and aligning the "F" mark with the opening of the points. The plugs are sparking. There's compression. I sprayed starting fluid in the carbs, so there's fuel.
The only thing that seemed weird was that the "F" mark arrived at a point of rotation where it was really easy to turn the crankshaft, leading me to think that it's sparking when the piston is down and there's no compression in the cylinder.
What am I missing?
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16 Aug 2013 09:44 #601665
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1982 KZ1000LTD K2 Vance & Hines 4-1 ACCEL COILS Added Vetter fairing & Bags. FOX Racing rear Shocks, Braced Swing-arm, Fork Brace, Progressive Fork Springs RT Gold Emulators, APE Valve Springs, 1166 Big Bore kit, RS34's, GPZ cams.
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Replied by Motor Head on topic Stumped. Spark, compression and fuel. Bike no run.
You have spark to the plugs when they are removed and laid onto the head, with the plug wires connected of course, kicking it over? Sounds like you may just have a dirty set of contacts on your points set. Did you replace those or just put the old ones back in? If the old ones, they would have a bit of pitting and build up that can effect the gap when you use a feeler gauge. SO do you have a dwell meter? Thats the best way to set the points. If you don't have a new set, a points file can clean them up, reset the gap/ dwell and try that.
1982 KZ1000LTD K2 Vance & Hines 4-1 ACCEL COILS Added Vetter fairing & Bags. FOX Racing rear Shocks, Braced Swing-arm, Fork Brace, Progressive Fork Springs RT Gold Emulators, APE Valve Springs, 1166 Big Bore kit, RS34's, GPZ cams.
1980 KZ550LTD C1 Stock SOLD Miss it
1979 MAZDA RX7 in the works, 13B...
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16 Aug 2013 11:33 #601680
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When working on the bike did you remove the advancer? If so then there's an assembly note in the manual (see kz400.com) regarding lining up a mark with a notch
Might be worth a look?
just a thought.
Might be worth a look?
just a thought.
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16 Aug 2013 21:14 - 16 Aug 2013 21:17 #601763
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Replied by chrispysaki on topic Stumped. Spark, compression and fuel. Bike no run.
The plug is sparking when I pull it out and rest it against the engine case while trying to start it. I didn't replace the points, but I can't imagine why it would run pretty well before removing them and then not at all after.
I'm not sure what a dwell meter is. I set the gap using a basic feeler gauge.
I'll check kz400.com to see about that notch/mark note for the advancer.
I'm not sure what a dwell meter is. I set the gap using a basic feeler gauge.
I'll check kz400.com to see about that notch/mark note for the advancer.
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16 Aug 2013 23:20 #601774
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Replied by 650ed on topic Stumped. Spark, compression and fuel. Bike no run.
If you removed the ignition cam from the advancer make sure you put it back correctly. Here's how:
www.armbell.com/kz400/viewtopic.php?t=3177&mforum=kz400
www.armbell.com/kz400/viewtopic.php?t=3177&mforum=kz400
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17 Aug 2013 01:11 #601793
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1982 KZ1000LTD K2 Vance & Hines 4-1 ACCEL COILS Added Vetter fairing & Bags. FOX Racing rear Shocks, Braced Swing-arm, Fork Brace, Progressive Fork Springs RT Gold Emulators, APE Valve Springs, 1166 Big Bore kit, RS34's, GPZ cams.
1980 KZ550LTD C1 Stock SOLD Miss it
1979 MAZDA RX7 in the works, 13B...
Replied by Motor Head on topic Stumped. Spark, compression and fuel. Bike no run.
Does it try at all? Cough, Backfire, spit out the carbs?
1982 KZ1000LTD K2 Vance & Hines 4-1 ACCEL COILS Added Vetter fairing & Bags. FOX Racing rear Shocks, Braced Swing-arm, Fork Brace, Progressive Fork Springs RT Gold Emulators, APE Valve Springs, 1166 Big Bore kit, RS34's, GPZ cams.
1980 KZ550LTD C1 Stock SOLD Miss it
1979 MAZDA RX7 in the works, 13B...
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