77 kz650B1 diagram check

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06 Aug 2013 18:28 #600125 by NickMac
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I am rebuilding my harness using the barebones diagrams on this site and have included the wired george coil mod. I drew up a diagram and i want to make sure it looks okay too you guys before I start putting it together.

thanks!

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08 Aug 2013 02:01 #600365 by btchalice
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not sure how the dyna wires up but from what i can see there you have a few issues with it , ill see if i can find a diagram that will work

Terry Meyer / Wichita KS
76 kz900 w/1000 motor TWZTD
I am not driving too fast, I'm flying too low.

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08 Aug 2013 02:38 #600366 by btchalice
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i modified someones diagram from another thread one with and one without the wg coil mod

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what you had was missing a power source for the relay and the starter. plus the wgmod for the coils uses a relay to direct link the coil to the battery for hottest spark.
if i'm wrong i'm sure someone will correct me

Terry Meyer / Wichita KS
76 kz900 w/1000 motor TWZTD
I am not driving too fast, I'm flying too low.
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08 Aug 2013 09:00 #600375 by Patton
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Good Fortune! :)

1973 Z1
KZ900 LTD
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08 Aug 2013 15:32 - 08 Aug 2013 15:41 #600438 by NickMac
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I appreciate your response and that clarified the relay greatly. Could you explain the purpose of have two sources of power for the starter solenoid? I haven't seen this on other diagrams. I see one directly from the battery and another from the relay. Am i missing something?

loudhvx wrote: 1977 KZ650 C1 for JohnnyC


btchalice wrote: i modified someones diagram from another thread one with and one without the wg coil mod

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what you had was missing a power source for the relay and the starter. plus the wgmod for the coils uses a relay to direct link the coil to the battery for hottest spark.
if i'm wrong i'm sure someone will correct me

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09 Aug 2013 01:35 - 09 Aug 2013 01:36 #600538 by btchalice
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the main wire to the solenoid is main battery power that connects to the starter when active. the other is to activate the magnet inside the solenoid to turn it on

i just added the wire from the relay to the solenoid to show a good source of power for the wg mod

Terry Meyer / Wichita KS
76 kz900 w/1000 motor TWZTD
I am not driving too fast, I'm flying too low.
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09 Aug 2013 03:05 #600550 by NickMac
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makes sense. I appreciate it!

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09 Aug 2013 18:45 - 09 Aug 2013 19:25 #600623 by loudhvx
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None of those diagrams will work for a 1977 KZ650 as drawn except the C1 for Johnny C. They all need various changes, and the Johnny C version uses a different ignition switch and no relay.

Let me see if I can dig one up, or just draw one from scratch.

Some relays have two 87 contacts. Either one can be used.
Some relays have an 87 and 87a contact. Don't use 87a.
I posted it on the Mattylight thread, and linked it here:


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10 Aug 2013 02:55 #600658 by btchalice
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like i said if i have it wrong somebody would correct me you can trust loudhvx he knows his stuff

Terry Meyer / Wichita KS
76 kz900 w/1000 motor TWZTD
I am not driving too fast, I'm flying too low.

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