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07 Jul 2013 06:38 #595354 by cam9281
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I have a 1977 kz1000 LTD. Ever since I bored the motor and put heavy duty valve springs in it, the bike is hard to crank over. I was wondering if anyone new of a battery with higher than normal cold cranking amps that would fit in my bike? Thanks

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07 Jul 2013 09:59 - 07 Jul 2013 10:00 #595358 by Old Man Rock
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Battery Plus Stores.... Xtreme AGM batteries

NOTE: Verify/confirm/Measure existing battery dimensions before buying any new one.... ;)


1976 KZ900-A4
MTC 1075cc.
Camshafts: Kawi GPZ-1100 .375 lift
Head: P&P via Larry Cavanaugh
ZX636 suspension
MIKUNI, RS-34'S...
Kerker 4-1, 1.5" comp baffle.
Dyna-S E.I.
Earls 10 row Oil Cooler
Acewell 2802 Series Speedo/Tach
Innovate LC1 Wideband 02 AFR meter

Phoenix, Az
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07 Jul 2013 10:50 #595362 by turboking
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maybe you need to get a 9 watt honda CBF 900 or honda CBF 1100 starter......usually starts high compression engines

2005 Kawasaki mean streak
2000 325 H.P. mcXpress turbo Hayabusa
1979 kz 1000 mk II ATP turbo
1975 Z1 960 cc Mr. Turbo
1975 Z1 1428 big block ATP turbo
1976 Kz900 1103 cc ATP turbo
1985 GS 1150E
1983 GS 1100E
1997 Suzuki Bandit 1200S
2001 Kawasaki EX 500 Ninja
1972 Honda cb750 (836cc turbo)

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07 Jul 2013 14:09 #595385 by steell
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Or you can convert it to a 24V start system. You can get Lithium Iron batteries that will allow you to fit two into the space formally occupied by the stock battery.

KD9JUR

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07 Jul 2013 18:22 #595416 by baldy110
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My engine, 1982 GPz1100 with 1135cc high comp MTC pistons, porting, performance valve job with heavier springs had a real hard time turning over also. It would turn over really slow when cold but once it was warmed up it started normal, weird. My solution was to use the starter from a 1982 Honda CB900F, it is .8kw instead of the Kawasaki's .6kw. That helped a lot but it still cranked over slow at least for me when cold. I ended putting in a "Ballistic Fabrication" 8 cell Lithium Ion battery, which I believe is 210 amps. This helped even more. The bike still cranks slower than normal when cold but at least it doesn't sound like the battery is about to die. Even when the temps are low the engine will start without issue now. I have had this setup for about 2 years now and am very happy with it.

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07 Jul 2013 18:58 #595424 by MFolks
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A similar story:


Using a stronger Honda starter motor in a Kawasaki

Buda from the www.kzrider.com forum wrote:

Will not turn the engine over....10.25 10 1 comp 1170 cc......took starter out and ran it with a battery....the starter spins strong but starts to squeal after a second.....also the shaft has a lot of play side to side. Bad starter I’m guessing What do you guys think?

Took the starter apart.....the bushing on the drive end is cracked

MFolks Wrote:
For a stronger starter motor, read this:

Using a Honda Mitsuba SM-220 Starter in the Kz (copied from the KZ rider website)

The CB F's used 2 different starters. Look for the one marked .8kw. They also have one that is .7kw. This owner noticed a difference when he installed his. He read that you can remove the outer housing, and rotate it. this will re-align the outer power terminal, to a better location. if you don’t do this, you will need to grind some metal from the chain cover to gain clearance. Also install a heavier gauge wire to the starter , I’d recommend 6 AWG(American Wire Gauge) welding cable with the correct terminal ends to match the treaded studs for the solenoid and starter motor. Don’t forget the cable from the battery to the solenoid.

The stock KZ starter is .6kw in size

www.stockers.com/index.php?dt=HS-29 (Mitsuba SM-220)

Buda Wrote:
Thanks MFolks, Just ordered the rebuild kit before I read your post....If that doesn't work out I'll give the Honda starter a shot.

Got a the Honda starter MFolks recommended (SM 220 12 volt 0.8 KW) on ebay...hell of a difference.....Turns over like the plugs are missing....I'm sure the new battery doesn't hurt, but its a hell of a difference.

1982 GPZ1100 B2
General Dynamics/Convair 1983-1993
GLCM BGM-109 Tomahawk, AGM-129A Advanced Cruise Missile (ACM)

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17 Jul 2013 13:58 #596942 by Davereplicant
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Same thing here. Got a z1100 a3 shaftie with a wiseco 1170 kit.
My starter barely turns the motor over even with a full charge.

Spotted one of those Honda starters on eBay and its in the post.
I take it the outer cover is easy enough to realign so that it drops in - and the starter motor cover bolts line up?

I don't really get the 24v mod or the lithium alternative but that first post battery looks pretty good.
Great tip, thanks!!!

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