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Solenoid Madness!
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One did not work at all and just clicked. The other would kinda work until it just clicked as well. I then took apart my old one and cleaned it out and that worked for about 2 days.
For the life of me I can not seem to locate a new (not used) quality solenoid for this bike.
I don't mind paying good money for one as long as it works.
Does anyone know a good place to purchase one from?
I would love to hear from anyone who has replaced on on a kz750 with success.
Thanks!
Larry
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www.denniskirk.com/ricks-motorsport-elec...10784.prd/210784.sku
Thoughts?
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Although it sounds strange that so many solenoids are giving trouble, maybe there is another issue at play here.
Check your earth straps/cables, a bad earth would give the symptoms you describe, undo them, check for corrosion and clean up properly.
Normally the battery is earthed to the frame and the starter is earthed to the motor, there should be a good earth between the motor and the frame, check it out.
Also check your battery cables, corrosion under the terminals will cause grief.
Short the two big terminals of the solenoid with a screwdriver, the starter should spin, if not, it is not your solenoid, your starter needs a rebuild.
Hope this helps.
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What else could make a solenoid just click like that?
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Mine failed a few years ago on my GPz. It now has a garden tractor solenoid which works just fine.
When you buy one, examine it. It should have 2 posts and one spade connector. The spade connector goes to the starter button, the posts go to the starter and the battery. It does not matter which post goes to which.
Be sure and run a ground wire from a solenoid mounting bolt to the frame bolt or the engine bolt as flyboy suggests.
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www.denniskirk.com/ricks-motorsport-elec...10784.prd/210784.sku
Looks like good quality.
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A starter solenoid is nothing more than a high current relay. Any will do. A garden tractor solenoid is $15 at your local hardware store and works just fine. I have one on my GPz.
And the Dennis Kirk one is the wrong one. They come with either one or two input wires. You need a solenoid with one input wire. That one has two.
It's your money, do as you wish.
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koolaid_kid wrote: I'll try one more time.
A starter solenoid is nothing more than a high current relay. Any will do. A garden tractor solenoid is $15 at your local hardware store and works just fine. I have one on my GPz.
And the Dennis Kirk one is the wrong one. They come with either one or two input wires. You need a solenoid with one input wire. That one has two.
It's your money, do as you wish.
I agree it is nothing more than a relay and any that is rated for the current being drawn by the starter should work. But, I thought they all have 2 wires to activate the switch (1 black and 1 yellow/red)? Every wiring diagram I have seen shows them that way and that's how the NOS Kawasaki switch is shown in the eBay listing. How would one wire up a relay with a single input wire? Ed
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First, you see the battery 12+ going to one of the posts, and the starter going to the other post.
The red/yellow wire goes to the starter button.
The black wire goes to ground.
On a solenoid with just one input wire, that wire goes to the starter button and the case itself is the ground. So you just run a wire from one of the solenoid mounting bolts to a ground spot on either the frame or the engine. The engine itself has a ground wire running from an engine mounting bolt to a frame grounding bolt. I would use the frame grounding bolt. Easy peasy. And a lot cheaper than NOS or aftermarket.
Hope this makes it a bit clearer.
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If any will do then this one from Kirk should work then. It is a 2 wire which is what my old one was. I know you are just trying to help but like I said, I have tried going the cheaper way with no success.
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So if anyone else needs a Solenoid for a kz750 and want one just like the OEM see the link below.
www.denniskirk.com/ricks-motorsport-elec...10784.prd/210784.sku
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