2:1 tach vs 1:1..does it matter?

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25 Jan 2012 00:47 #499951 by DaddyJama
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i was looking around for a new tach and speedo combo.. i see that some are 2:1 and others are 1:1.. does it matter which i get to fit my ltd440?
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25 Jan 2012 11:23 - 25 Jan 2012 11:25 #499987 by TexasKZ
Replied by TexasKZ on topic 2:1 tach vs 1:1..does it matter?
That depends on what sort of trigger or pickup is involved and what it is connected to and whether you are talking about the speedo or the tach. What does the manufacturer say?

OK, I see the subject line says tach.
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25 Jan 2012 13:41 #500008 by Jeff.Saunders
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They are referring to crank versus cam driven ignitions.

The crank turns twice for every revolution of the cams.

Some bikes have the ignitions on the end of the crank, others up in the cam.
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27 Jan 2012 01:28 #500273 by DaddyJama
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so mine runs off cam, so do i get a 2:1 or 1:1
2005 636 - track bike
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27 Jan 2012 14:00 #500329 by kzcafe750_24
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1:1 tach
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27 Jan 2012 15:39 #500337 by 750steve
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If it helps the tach output for my KZ750 B2 twin reads at 1:1 & its a modified KZ440 ignition
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28 Jan 2012 02:24 #500412 by DaddyJama
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awesome! so 1:1 tach.. what about the speedo?

i'm looking at dime city and they sell alltyped of ratios?

750steve, how did you find out the 750 is a 1:1?
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28 Jan 2012 12:48 #500440 by 750steve
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DaddyJama wrote: awesome! so 1:1 tach.. what about the speedo?

i'm looking at dime city and they sell alltyped of ratios?

750steve, how did you find out the 750 is a 1:1?


It says in the fitting instructions, 1 pulse per crank revolution
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29 Jan 2012 01:13 #500565 by notaduc
Replied by notaduc on topic 2:1 tach vs 1:1..does it matter?
If you are talking about the cam driven mechanical tach.

The cam rotates once per engine revolution, but the tach drive pinion is much smaller than the drive gear on the cam, so, Id have to say its not 1:1

Im pretty sure its 4:1. I have my head apart, I will check when I put my cam back in this week.
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29 Jan 2012 12:26 #500610 by DaddyJama
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thanks notac..

mine is a mechanical..
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29 Jan 2012 13:06 #500635 by notaduc
Replied by notaduc on topic 2:1 tach vs 1:1..does it matter?
I just saw you have a 440, thats a twin huh? Either way the cam rotates 1:1, but it depends on the gearing ratio between the cam/pinion. I have a 1000 four, which could very likely have a different ratio.

If you want to be 100% sure, you can disconnect the cable turn the engine over manually one full revolution and count how many times the cable turns.
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02 Feb 2012 21:08 #501612 by notaduc
Replied by notaduc on topic 2:1 tach vs 1:1..does it matter?
Havent installed my cam yet (waiting for bearings). But the picture in my head of the gear drive was wrong, looking at it it may be 1:1.

So, ultimately, Im no help so far.
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