what will make a coil pack it in?
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what will make a coil pack it in?
06 Aug 2011 01:23
I have a 78 650b that has gone through two coils on the #2 & 3 cyl side in 1 1/2 years. Is there something that would cause a coil to pack it in, or is it just coincidental? :blink:
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Re: what will make a coil pack it in?
06 Aug 2011 02:01
Does bike have "points" ignition?
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Re: what will make a coil pack it in?
06 Aug 2011 02:45
Running a coil with too low Ohms rating for the bike will shorten it's life severely due to heat stress.
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Re: what will make a coil pack it in?
06 Aug 2011 12:06
Leaving the key on will fry them. Roy
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Re: what will make a coil pack it in?
06 Aug 2011 14:37
What brand of ignition coil are you using? Kawasaki? Dyna? Accel? Emgo? New or used?
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Re: what will make a coil pack it in?
07 Aug 2011 23:26
I have a dyna s ignition, and the 3ohm green coils. It seems to only be the left coil (cyl 2&3) that goes.
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Re: what will make a coil pack it in?
07 Aug 2011 23:40
Checked the input voltage to the inition coils? When replacing the bad coil, did you ohm check the bad one? I'm wondering why it failed. How's the mounting configuration? The same for both coils? Did you use a good crimper for the ring terminals on the green coils? If the ring terminal mounting hardware screws are too long, the screws will bottom out before being tight, possibly causing surges in the primary windings.
Read this for the correct crimpers to use:
www.pbase.com/mainecruising/wire_termination
(The Good, Bad, & Ugly Wire Crimpers)
Read this for the correct crimpers to use:
www.pbase.com/mainecruising/wire_termination
(The Good, Bad, & Ugly Wire Crimpers)
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Re: what will make a coil pack it in?
07 Aug 2011 23:55
Would also assure the terminal screw head isn't shorting out against the coil mounting spacer.
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Re: what will make a coil pack it in?
08 Aug 2011 00:18
yes I did check and the primary was 4.8 ohms and the secondary did not register at all. Got about 8 months service out of it before it packed it in. The right coil primaries are the same and I forgot what the secondaries where. All the connections were tight not touching anything to short them out. Haven't checked the voltage going to the coil though.
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Re: what will make a coil pack it in?
08 Aug 2011 00:22
That was an informative link Mfolks. I used a cheap crimper to attach the connector, but they seem tight though.
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Re: what will make a coil pack it in?
08 Aug 2011 00:24
Could check charging system to assure the battery isn't being over-charged.
Voltage measured across battery terminal posts isn't supposed to exceed 15 volts at 4,000+ rpm.
If charging voltage exceeds 15 volts, may require a new regulator.
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Voltage measured across battery terminal posts isn't supposed to exceed 15 volts at 4,000+ rpm.
If charging voltage exceeds 15 volts, may require a new regulator.
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Re: what will make a coil pack it in?
08 Aug 2011 01:12
For quality electrical crimps in a production facility, they only use the ratcheting type crimpers seen toward the last few pages of the article. When I worked at General Dynamics/Convair on the missile programs, the crimpers were calibrated for 30 days, after that time,they were checked with special tools and conducted a pull test to see what level of effort was needed to pull whatever gauge wire was needed out of the terminals.
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