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14 Jul 2011 20:46 #462897
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electronic igniton and green dynas was created by retrokzr
After 30 years I finally picked up 79 kz1000est in parts. I finally got her running and the pick-ups lost spark. To start with a clean slate, I purchased a dyna-s ignition with green 3.0 ohm dyna coils. Did I do the right thing or just wasting money? I don't mind spending the money if I get results.
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14 Jul 2011 20:59 #462898
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1982 GPZ1100 B2
General Dynamics/Convair 1983-1993
GLCM BGM-109 Tomahawk, AGM-129A Advanced Cruise Missile (ACM)
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Did you ohm check the pick ups?(what Kawasaki calls pulsing coils).
Ohm Checking Pickup(Pulsing) Coils
The pickup coils on the Kawasaki’s with the factory supplied electronic ignition can sometimes fail or become intermittent due to heat and vibration.
1.Trace back from where the pick up coils are mounted,(under a right side CD sized cover) locate and disconnect a small 4 pin connector. Using a multi-meter set on OHMS and range of 2K, check between the BLUE and BLACK wires(#1 and #4 sparkplug wires) for between 360- 540 OHMS.
2.For #2 and #3 sparkplugs the wire colors will be YELLOW and RED, again 360-540 OHMS. The 550’s,650’s & 750’s may be backwards to the Z1’s,Kz900’s,Kz1000’s & Kz1100’s.
3.If the pickup coils are suspect of failing due to heat, they can be stressed using a hair dryer without the need of the engine running.
4.A replacement set of pickup coils might be obtained from a dealer who serviced the police Kawasaki’s.
5. If replacement pickup coils are not available, your next choice would be to order a Dyna “S” electronic ignition system from www.z1enterprises.com It replaces the IC igniter with a smaller module located where the mechanical ignition advancer was mounted.
6. Checking with Kawasaki.com website has determined that the Pick up(pulsing) coils are available . The pulsing coil # is 59026-1133 and replaces the older # 1002, 1012 which were used from the MKII motors until the 2005 P24.
7.Check the small 4 pin connector that the pickup coils connect to for corrosion/loose pins too.
Ohm Checking Pickup(Pulsing) Coils
The pickup coils on the Kawasaki’s with the factory supplied electronic ignition can sometimes fail or become intermittent due to heat and vibration.
1.Trace back from where the pick up coils are mounted,(under a right side CD sized cover) locate and disconnect a small 4 pin connector. Using a multi-meter set on OHMS and range of 2K, check between the BLUE and BLACK wires(#1 and #4 sparkplug wires) for between 360- 540 OHMS.
2.For #2 and #3 sparkplugs the wire colors will be YELLOW and RED, again 360-540 OHMS. The 550’s,650’s & 750’s may be backwards to the Z1’s,Kz900’s,Kz1000’s & Kz1100’s.
3.If the pickup coils are suspect of failing due to heat, they can be stressed using a hair dryer without the need of the engine running.
4.A replacement set of pickup coils might be obtained from a dealer who serviced the police Kawasaki’s.
5. If replacement pickup coils are not available, your next choice would be to order a Dyna “S” electronic ignition system from www.z1enterprises.com It replaces the IC igniter with a smaller module located where the mechanical ignition advancer was mounted.
6. Checking with Kawasaki.com website has determined that the Pick up(pulsing) coils are available . The pulsing coil # is 59026-1133 and replaces the older # 1002, 1012 which were used from the MKII motors until the 2005 P24.
7.Check the small 4 pin connector that the pickup coils connect to for corrosion/loose pins too.
1982 GPZ1100 B2
General Dynamics/Convair 1983-1993
GLCM BGM-109 Tomahawk, AGM-129A Advanced Cruise Missile (ACM)
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15 Jul 2011 08:17 #462967
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1976 KZ900-A4
MTC 1075cc.
Camshafts: Kawi GPZ-1100 .375 lift
Head: P&P via Larry Cavanaugh
ZX636 suspension
MIKUNI, RS-34'S...
Kerker 4-1, 1.5" comp baffle.
Dyna-S E.I.
Earls 10 row Oil Cooler
Acewell 2802 Series Speedo/Tach
Innovate LC1 Wideband 02 AFR meter
Phoenix, Az
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"Did I do the right thing or just wasting money? I don't mind spending the money if I get results."
Once set up (static and Dynamic adjustments), dialed in you'll love it...
Just in case you need...
Coil Installation
Dyna S Installation
Have a good engine case ground to battery (-)...?
Have +12Vdc (battery)to Dyna Plate...?
Once set up (static and Dynamic adjustments), dialed in you'll love it...
Just in case you need...
Coil Installation
Dyna S Installation
Have a good engine case ground to battery (-)...?
Have +12Vdc (battery)to Dyna Plate...?
Attachment DynaSBenchTest.JPG not found
1976 KZ900-A4
MTC 1075cc.
Camshafts: Kawi GPZ-1100 .375 lift
Head: P&P via Larry Cavanaugh
ZX636 suspension
MIKUNI, RS-34'S...
Kerker 4-1, 1.5" comp baffle.
Dyna-S E.I.
Earls 10 row Oil Cooler
Acewell 2802 Series Speedo/Tach
Innovate LC1 Wideband 02 AFR meter
Phoenix, Az
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15 Jul 2011 22:48 #463080
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thanks for the info, much appreciated!
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21 Jul 2011 15:40 #464133
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74 Z1 900
75 Z1 900
2 - 76 KZ 900
76 KZ LTD 900
77 KZ 1000
77 KZ custom 1075
78 LTD 1000
80 LTD 1000
2000 KZ Police 1015J
83 HD FLH 1340
79 FXE SG custom 1200
78 FXE SG custom 93""
Replied by kaw corral on topic electronic igniton and green dynas
IMO You have absolutely done the best possiblething by going with that application I have 4 bikes with the same setup and it is foolproof and try to mount the coils with some anti vibe application.
74 Z1 900
75 Z1 900
2 - 76 KZ 900
76 KZ LTD 900
77 KZ 1000
77 KZ custom 1075
78 LTD 1000
80 LTD 1000
2000 KZ Police 1015J
83 HD FLH 1340
79 FXE SG custom 1200
78 FXE SG custom 93""
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22 Jul 2011 15:41 - 22 Jul 2011 15:42 #464281
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Foolproof? Or maybe you've just been lucky so far
Do a bit of searching on the site, loosing one side (1&4 or 2&3) is extremely common with the Dyna S.
The factory electronic ignition is the best, and if the igniter goes bad just make one of Lou's using the GM HEI module.
KD9JUR
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kaw corral wrote: IMO You have absolutely done the best possiblething by going with that application I have 4 bikes with the same setup and it is foolproof and try to mount the coils with some anti vibe application.
Foolproof? Or maybe you've just been lucky so far
Do a bit of searching on the site, loosing one side (1&4 or 2&3) is extremely common with the Dyna S.
The factory electronic ignition is the best, and if the igniter goes bad just make one of Lou's using the GM HEI module.
KD9JUR
Last edit: 22 Jul 2011 15:42 by steell.
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