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01 Jun 2011 10:27 #454735 by strutt57
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:huh: 1983 kzltd1100 i have a dead cyl ive changed the coils had the carbs rebiulded and theres 120 on the compression but #2 cyl. is dead there is all kind of spark from the plug im lost help please the season is flying by and im missing it

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01 Jun 2011 11:27 #454745 by Patton
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strutt57 wrote: :huh: 1983 kzltd1100 i have a dead cyl ive changed the coils had the carbs rebiulded and theres 120 on the compression but #2 cyl. is dead there is all kind of spark from the plug im lost help please the season is flying by and im missing it


Hello, strutt57, and WELCOME to KZr! :cheer:

If the #2 spark plug tip remains dry immediately after attempting to start the engine, would suspect inadequate cleaning-rebuild job on #2 carb.

Meanwhile, as a diagnostic test, would reverse the plug wire leads between #2 and #3 to see whether the non-combustion issue moves to #3 cylinder.

Good Fortune! :)

1973 Z1
KZ900 LTD

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01 Jun 2011 11:49 #454750 by kz750saskatoon
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If problem stays at two, my next step would be to check the carbs. Maybe the fuel level in the bowl is set too low. Or high.

Is the plug wet or dry after trying to start it?

1981 KZ750-H2
Saskatoon, SK
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01 Jun 2011 12:56 #454759 by strutt57
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the plug is soaked i started it let it run 2 mim and shut it down and it was wet

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01 Jun 2011 12:58 #454760 by strutt57
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it dont i started it let it run 2 mim and it was wet

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01 Jun 2011 13:48 #454771 by Patton
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strutt57 wrote: 1983 kzltd1100...carbs rebuilt...120 on the compression but #2 cyl. is dead there is all kind of spark from the plug....
the plug is soaked i started it let it run 2 mim and shut it down and it was wet


Having acceptable compression and good spark, but no combustion, casts more suspicion toward the carb, and the wet plug indicates an excessively rich mixture for whatever reason.

Good Fortune! :)

1973 Z1
KZ900 LTD

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01 Jun 2011 14:06 #454777 by strutt57
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the funny thing is that last year it ran real good then all of suddon this starts

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01 Jun 2011 14:08 - 01 Jun 2011 14:09 #454778 by Patton
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Would remove #2 spark plug; spray starter fluid into the plug hole to help de-flood the cylinder; use compressed air, if available, to blow out the cylinder; install a brand new NGKB8ES spark plug; and try again.

Past experience has been that a flooded plug that sparks when tested outside the cylinder may nevertheless fail to fire when installed, even a relatively new plug.

Good Fortune!

1973 Z1
KZ900 LTD
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01 Jun 2011 15:35 #454796 by MFolks
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Try if possible a Denso W24-ESU sparkplug, as I've lost any trust of the NGK's made in the U.S. If you can find NGK's made in Japan, use them. I've had new NGK's fail right out of the box more than once.

1982 GPZ1100 B2
General Dynamics/Convair 1983-1993
GLCM BGM-109 Tomahawk, AGM-129A Advanced Cruise Missile (ACM)
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