GPz1100 odd temp sensor voltage issue

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09 Jan 2011 18:34 #421114 by MFolks
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Tried replacing the main pump relay? it's usually behind the left side cover having two connectors, White and Black.

1982 GPZ1100 B2
General Dynamics/Convair 1983-1993
GLCM BGM-109 Tomahawk, AGM-129A Advanced Cruise Missile (ACM)

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09 Jan 2011 21:04 #421148 by Motor Head
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Thats the file MFolks, good one to book mark.

Since you have 2 bikes I would suggest getting them side by side for a quick swap of any suspect part.
Here is 2 Control/ PCM/ ECM units on Fleebay.
motors.desc.shop.ebay.com/i.html?_nkw=21...06.m270.l1313&_rdc=1
If you find out its the unit.

1982 KZ1000LTD K2 Vance & Hines 4-1 ACCEL COILS Added Vetter fairing & Bags. FOX Racing rear Shocks, Braced Swing-arm, Fork Brace, Progressive Fork Springs RT Gold Emulators, APE Valve Springs, 1166 Big Bore kit, RS34's, GPZ cams.
1980 KZ550LTD C1 Stock SOLD Miss it
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10 Jan 2011 02:11 - 10 Jan 2011 02:13 #421167 by Polar_Bus
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MFolks wrote:

Tried replacing the main pump relay? it's usually behind the left side cover having two connectors, White and Black.


Not yet, but after studing the DFI scematic, there is a good possibility that the pump relay could be faulty, and somehow backfeeding voltage to the ECU ? I have another set of relays on my "to do checklist" that I plan on swapping.



Motor Head wrote:

Since you have 2 bikes I would suggest getting them side by side for a quick swap of any suspect part.
Here is 2 Control/ PCM/ ECM units on Fleebay.
motors.desc.shop.ebay.com/i.html?_nkw=21...270.l1313&_rdc=1
If you find out its the unit..


I have a complete set of DFI electronics, and a ton of other misc electrical spares from a parts bike I purchased about 2 years ago. That parts bike has been priceless just for this reason !!!!!

Thanks again for all the suggestions !

Rich

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'84 GPz1100
'06 HD Fatboy
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03 Jun 2011 00:50 #455109 by Motor Head
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Did you ever find the source of the problem? Fix it?

1982 KZ1000LTD K2 Vance & Hines 4-1 ACCEL COILS Added Vetter fairing & Bags. FOX Racing rear Shocks, Braced Swing-arm, Fork Brace, Progressive Fork Springs RT Gold Emulators, APE Valve Springs, 1166 Big Bore kit, RS34's, GPZ cams.
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03 Jun 2011 01:24 #455113 by MFolks
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Kawasaki Fuel Injection Sensor Specs

Here's from my 1982 GPz1100 B2 factory shop manual:

Air temperature sensor spec(probably the one on the air filter housing, or next to it).

Meter at ohms X 1K ohms ( I use ohms X 2K as it works on my meter)
Disconnect the wiring from the harness, one meter probe to one of the connector pins, the other on the last pin.

Should read 2.0K ohms to 3.0 K ohms at 68 F, if your meter won't read this, try the 20K ohm setting.

A footnote says this reading is true when sensor temperature is 20C (68F), 4.7 K ohms to 7.6 K ohms when 0 C (32 F) and 1.4 K ohms to 2.2 K ohms when 30 C (86 F).

Engine temperature sensor spec:
Again, meter to 2K ohm settings, one meter lead to the push on terminal (remove the wire as it may give a false reading) and the other to a chassis ground(any Black with Yellow stripe wire is part of the ground circuit).

The readings will be the same as the air temperature sensor.

The TPS has an electrical connector, only the first three(3) contacts are used, counting from left to right as you face it.

From my factory shop manual I'm making it easier to get the readings, by using shortcuts).


1. Ignition switch off.

2. Remove the small SS clip holding the cable to the TPS.

3. Using a multimeter set on ohms, range of 2K.

4. Measure between the first electrical contact on the left and the third to the right.

5. It should read between 3.3K ohms to 6.8K ohms.

The next test will cover the range between idle and full throttle:

1. Set the meter's probes on the left contact and the one next to it, as this is the idle position check.

2. Readings should be between 2.1K ohms to 4.2 K ohms

Full throttle check:

1. Same electrical contacts used.

2. With the throttle wide open, readings should be between 0.35 K ohms to 0.71 K ohms, see if the resistance changes smoothly, with no fluctuations or wide variations as the throttle is closed down to the idle position.

3. If there are variations, try cleaning the TPS with the De-Oxit electrical contact cleaner/preservative. Open and close it with the throttle while spraying the cleaner up inside.

4. www.deoxit.com is the website for the electrical contact cleaner/preservative. It can be purchased at Radio Shack Stores and other electronic supply places.

1982 GPZ1100 B2
General Dynamics/Convair 1983-1993
GLCM BGM-109 Tomahawk, AGM-129A Advanced Cruise Missile (ACM)

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03 Jun 2011 01:26 #455114 by MFolks
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Cleaning Kawasaki TPS

I'd suggest cleaning the Throttle Position Sensor (TPS) too as it's a carbon variable resistor that gets dirty. It's the module with DFI on it below the tank on the right side.

To clean it, first go to Radio Shack or any other electronic supply store and purchase some De-Oxit contact cleaner/preservative.
With the engine off, remove a small SS clip holding the wiring to the TPS and disconnect the cable.Put some newspapers to keep the cleaner off the engine cases. www.deoxit.com is their website.

Spray the De-Oxit up inside the TPS while opening and closing the throttle several times to flush out any carbon residue. Let it dry for a while, then reassemble the TPS cable and retaining clip.

You should notice an improvement in throttle responce.

1982 GPZ1100 B2
General Dynamics/Convair 1983-1993
GLCM BGM-109 Tomahawk, AGM-129A Advanced Cruise Missile (ACM)

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