Mechanical advancer differences

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Mechanical advancer differences

20 Sep 2010 19:05
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I have two z1 engines one a z1b and the other a z1. I see that there is a difference between the two advancers in how they are stamped (timing marks). I have a new dyna ignition setup in the z1b and want to put it on the z1. I know that according to z1E they have a different rotor for the earlier engines available. Is there a reason I can't change the whole setup between the two (including advancers)? I think it should work, but I thought I would throw it our there here just incase.B)
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Re: Mechanical advancer differences

20 Sep 2010 19:29
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The later style advancer is a better unit in that it gives a better spark curve at the bottom. If you change the whole setup you should be fine but if you use the earlier advancer I would recommend the optional rotor that Z1E has available.;) ;)
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Re: Mechanical advancer differences

20 Sep 2010 19:33
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Well if the timing marks are located in different areas of the backing plates of the advancers,I would definitely install the one that gave you a proper reading in relation to piston location.
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Re: Mechanical advancer differences

20 Sep 2010 19:38
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Dice wrote:
I have two z1 engines one a z1b and the other a z1. I see that there is a difference between the two advancers in how they are stamped (timing marks). I have a new dyna ignition setup in the z1b and want to put it on the z1. I know that according to z1E they have a different rotor for the earlier engines available. Is there a reason I can't change the whole setup between the two (including advancers)? I think it should work, but I thought I would throw it our there here just incase.B)

Per Z1E:
Dyna-S Electronic Ignition DS2-1 - Kawasaki Z1 KZ900 KZ1000...
If you have a 73 Z1 or an early 74 Z1A, we may need to supply a different crank rotor. Up through engine number Z1F-32817 kawasaki installed a 5/40 degree mechanical advancer (normal fire mark is 5 degrees then advancing to 40 degrees). If you have one of these on your engine, please enter a note in the special instructions to replace the standard rotor (3 rotor) in the Dyna-S with one special for these early bikes (3A rotor).)
As many advancers have been swapped from bike to bike, please check before ordering.


I interpret this to mean using Dyna-S with the early advancer requires Dyna-S rotor 3A,
and using Dyna-S with the later advancer requires Dyna-S rotor 3 which is furnished unless rotor 3A is specially requested.

Sorry I don't know difference in appearance between rotor 3 and rotor 3A.

The Z1B should have the later advancer and rotor 3, which I believe would fit and work just fine on the Z1.

Good Fortune! :)

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Re: Mechanical advancer differences

20 Sep 2010 19:46 - 20 Sep 2010 20:29
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Those are the two units I am talking about right there. I only have the latter style dyna parts. Sounds like it is a go. Thanks for the replies.
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