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23 Jul 2010 05:00 #384849
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my kz 650 78 began to choke when I gave it gas between 7 and 8000 rpms and did not like to start up. it was not the carbs. now it does not go over 5000 rpms. the problem seems to be a weak spark, not the coils because it did not ran on cylinder 1 and later on 1 and 3 (not 1 and 4 nor 2 and 3).
do you recommend switching to electronic ignition or just replacing the stock plate? what are the advantages of both? which is the best electronic ignition?
do you have either of these in top shape for sale or do you know where to get them? I am in Chicagoland.
Thanks for your opinion and have a nice day
do you recommend switching to electronic ignition or just replacing the stock plate? what are the advantages of both? which is the best electronic ignition?
do you have either of these in top shape for sale or do you know where to get them? I am in Chicagoland.
Thanks for your opinion and have a nice day
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23 Jul 2010 07:21 #384874
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74 Z1-A stock
76 KZ-900 Totaly stock vice MAC pipe
77 KZ-1000A stock
78 Z1-R 100%MINT 500 original Mi.
78 Z1-R Yoshi 1103 kit stage 1 cams Yoshi pipe. Etc
79 KZ-1300 (1400)
80 KZ-1300
81 Scratch built GPz1150R
82 KZ1000
Replied by otakar on topic stock ignition plate or electronic in a kz650 78?
Electronic ignition is the only way to go.
74 Z1-A stock
76 KZ-900 Totaly stock vice MAC pipe
77 KZ-1000A stock
78 Z1-R 100%MINT 500 original Mi.
78 Z1-R Yoshi 1103 kit stage 1 cams Yoshi pipe. Etc
79 KZ-1300 (1400)
80 KZ-1300
81 Scratch built GPz1150R
82 KZ1000
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23 Jul 2010 07:32 #384880
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1977 KZ650-C1 Original Owner - Stock (with additional invisible FIAMM horn)
Replied by 650ed on topic stock ignition plate or electronic in a kz650 78?
I would just replace the points and condensors. This is normal maintenance. Z1E has what you need (see link).
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23 Jul 2010 09:57 #384918
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Replied by cobura on topic stock ignition plate or electronic in a kz650 78?
some people love the original points setup, probably because its mechanical and easy to understand, BUT they NEED adjusted as part of regular maintenance.
an electronic ignition is often more consistent, and if you are bad at adjusting points, its also makes your engine run smoother. Personally i think points are a pain and electronic ignition is the way to go.
If you want the #1 BEST electronic ignition for a Z1, you want an UOTANI. Probably most people here hevent heard of it, thats because its only available in japan and costs about $800 :silly:
an electronic ignition is often more consistent, and if you are bad at adjusting points, its also makes your engine run smoother. Personally i think points are a pain and electronic ignition is the way to go.
If you want the #1 BEST electronic ignition for a Z1, you want an UOTANI. Probably most people here hevent heard of it, thats because its only available in japan and costs about $800 :silly:
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23 Jul 2010 10:45 #384934
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thank you. z1 is a great source of parts. thanks
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23 Jul 2010 10:48 #384936
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thank you. I have never heard of UOTANI, only Dyna
I have a 650 with dyna coils/ignition and this other bike is all stock and I wanted to keep it like that but it is acting out and the guy that is looking at it told me to get electronic ignition so a Dyna S at z1 is 130 and I may buy that
strange thing is that when I bought the bike it ran fine, rode it 100 miles home and it started dying when I opened the gas, etc
now it is in a shop and I am trying to get it out of there as soon as possible
thanks for your suggestion
I have a 650 with dyna coils/ignition and this other bike is all stock and I wanted to keep it like that but it is acting out and the guy that is looking at it told me to get electronic ignition so a Dyna S at z1 is 130 and I may buy that
strange thing is that when I bought the bike it ran fine, rode it 100 miles home and it started dying when I opened the gas, etc
now it is in a shop and I am trying to get it out of there as soon as possible
thanks for your suggestion
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23 Jul 2010 13:11 #384984
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74 Z1-A stock
76 KZ-900 Totaly stock vice MAC pipe
77 KZ-1000A stock
78 Z1-R 100%MINT 500 original Mi.
78 Z1-R Yoshi 1103 kit stage 1 cams Yoshi pipe. Etc
79 KZ-1300 (1400)
80 KZ-1300
81 Scratch built GPz1150R
82 KZ1000
Replied by otakar on topic stock ignition plate or electronic in a kz650 78?
You also have the choice of installing an OE Kawasaki electronic ignition out of a 750 or a 550. It is almost as simple to install as a Dyna and is a bit better. This way you will have an OE Kawasaki. All you require is the pickup coil plate, the IC module and a 6 pin or 8 pin plug to mate to it.
74 Z1-A stock
76 KZ-900 Totaly stock vice MAC pipe
77 KZ-1000A stock
78 Z1-R 100%MINT 500 original Mi.
78 Z1-R Yoshi 1103 kit stage 1 cams Yoshi pipe. Etc
79 KZ-1300 (1400)
80 KZ-1300
81 Scratch built GPz1150R
82 KZ1000
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23 Jul 2010 13:18 #384985
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1977 KZ650-C1 Original Owner - Stock (with additional invisible FIAMM horn)
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Everything has its pros and cons. Points/condensers need to be replaced (if set properly) every 10,000 miles or so (costs about $30/takes about an hour or less), but I've never heard of anyone being stranded because the points or condensers fail. Performance gradually deteriorates over time, but there's no single event that kills the system. With electronic ignition once it's set properly it needs no maintenance and performance remains constant; but it can fail, and if it does it usually leaves you stranded. Electronic is more expensive up front, and depending on how long you keep your bike the return on investment may or may not happen.
I'm not judging one to be better or worse than the other; just pointing out that each has advantages/disadvantages.
I'm not judging one to be better or worse than the other; just pointing out that each has advantages/disadvantages.
1977 KZ650-C1 Original Owner - Stock (with additional invisible FIAMM horn)
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