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15 Jun 2010 05:33 #375829 by Old Man Rock
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Loudvhx, any concerns regarding the KZ electrical system regarding pulsating currents...

Pending voltage/current swings, ~ 2amps being switched at 30Hz or so... For see any issues in over taxing the electrical?

1976 KZ900-A4
MTC 1075cc.
Camshafts: Kawi GPZ-1100 .375 lift
Head: P&P via Larry Cavanaugh
ZX636 suspension
MIKUNI, RS-34'S...
Kerker 4-1, 1.5" comp baffle.
Dyna-S E.I.
Earls 10 row Oil Cooler
Acewell 2802 Series Speedo/Tach
Innovate LC1 Wideband 02 AFR meter

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15 Jun 2010 05:36 #375830 by loudhvx
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I think the flickering is done with just a very short momentary reduction in voltage. It can be a steady reduced voltage or high frequency duty cycle reduction. But with either method, the shorter the pulse, the greater the reduction must be.

I don't think you want it to be like a turn signal flasher, you want it to be more like a loose wire type flickering.

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15 Jun 2010 05:41 #375832 by Old Man Rock
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"loose wire type flickering."... Well hell.... already have that! :ohmy: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

1976 KZ900-A4
MTC 1075cc.
Camshafts: Kawi GPZ-1100 .375 lift
Head: P&P via Larry Cavanaugh
ZX636 suspension
MIKUNI, RS-34'S...
Kerker 4-1, 1.5" comp baffle.
Dyna-S E.I.
Earls 10 row Oil Cooler
Acewell 2802 Series Speedo/Tach
Innovate LC1 Wideband 02 AFR meter

Phoenix, Az

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15 Jun 2010 05:41 #375833 by loudhvx
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Old Man Rock wrote:

Loudvhx, any concerns regarding the KZ electrical system regarding pulsating currents...

Pending voltage/current swings, ~ 2amps being switched at 30Hz or so... For see any issues in over taxing the electrical?


Not really. If anything, it will reduce power usage very slightly. If there is any high-frequency noise that will affect any thing, it can probably be shunted with a cap. But I really doubt it's necessary. The alternator and ignition are already huge noise makers and they don't seem to be a problem (unless you use a digital voltmeter on the bike without some resistor wire/or caps/or plugs).

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15 Jun 2010 05:44 #375835 by Old Man Rock
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Cool topic... thanks guys!

1976 KZ900-A4
MTC 1075cc.
Camshafts: Kawi GPZ-1100 .375 lift
Head: P&P via Larry Cavanaugh
ZX636 suspension
MIKUNI, RS-34'S...
Kerker 4-1, 1.5" comp baffle.
Dyna-S E.I.
Earls 10 row Oil Cooler
Acewell 2802 Series Speedo/Tach
Innovate LC1 Wideband 02 AFR meter

Phoenix, Az

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15 Jun 2010 05:44 #375836 by loudhvx
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Old Man Rock wrote:

"loose wire type flickering."... Well hell.... already have that! :ohmy: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:


:laugh:

Maybe the whole thing should be mechanical. Just wire the headlight through an un-powered relay and replace the spring with a really weak one. Then every small bump that comes along will cause the light to flicker.

Gotta find some use for all those relays. :ohmy:

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15 Jun 2010 05:49 #375838 by Old Man Rock
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"Gotta find some use for all those relays"... Pulse it off the coil mod... :ohmy: :evil: :whistle: :pinch:

1976 KZ900-A4
MTC 1075cc.
Camshafts: Kawi GPZ-1100 .375 lift
Head: P&P via Larry Cavanaugh
ZX636 suspension
MIKUNI, RS-34'S...
Kerker 4-1, 1.5" comp baffle.
Dyna-S E.I.
Earls 10 row Oil Cooler
Acewell 2802 Series Speedo/Tach
Innovate LC1 Wideband 02 AFR meter

Phoenix, Az

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15 Jun 2010 11:35 #375891 by bountyhunter
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Thanks for the replies. It is klugey to have to use power resistors to get the "low light" current. I figured 50% ON time and off time was right, I guess I will play with that on the bench and see what looks best for attracting attention. Longer on time would reduce power diss in the shunt resistors and let me use lower Ohm values there.

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15 Jun 2010 12:15 - 15 Jun 2010 12:23 #375897 by otakar
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15 Jun 2010 13:26 - 15 Jun 2010 13:52 #375909 by bountyhunter
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Here's a low side (ground line) modulator using an N-FET switch that has both high and low light intensity, the low intensity is done by a low duty cycle PWM running at about 200 Hz frequency. The two 555's are OR connected so whichever one pulls high turns on the light. The left one is the 4 Hz oscillator, the right one is about 200 Hz (but at a low duty cycle) pulser that will give the lower light intensity during the interval when the 4 Hz oscillator is not driving the light ON. There is also a switch to turn the headlight on manually so it can not pulse. This design requires no power resistors for "low intensity" loading but it also requires a 12V line be available to run it. This has not been built up so R-C values may have to be adjusted to get osc frequencies and duty cycle on target.




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15 Jun 2010 13:56 - 15 Jun 2010 14:00 #375912 by bountyhunter
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otakar wrote:

www.buchanan1.net/modulator.shtml



www.timberwoof.com/motorcycle/lightslaws.html


Not sure I would want this design because you will have about 1.2 - 1.4V drop across the darlington of Q1/Q2 which will definitely make the light dimmer.

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15 Jun 2010 13:59 #375913 by MentalMike
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I've got one of these on 3 of my bikes. Simple plug and play that conforms to DOT regs if that's what your looking for. Never had a problem.

www.comagination.com/modulator.htm


I carry one of these with each bike.

www.webbikeworld.com/Motorcycle-technica...s/Modulator-regs.htm

I swear to God, it's like I live in a trailer of common sense, and stare out the window at a tornado of stupidity.

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