no spark at 2 and 3 cyls....not coil

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02 May 2010 05:20 #364913 by 2 stroker
no spark at 2 and 3 cyls....not coil was created by 2 stroker
1981 750 swaped coil leads from 1 and 4 and it fires then,any one have a direction to look??

Thanks

1965 suzuki s32 150 twin
1972 yamaha ls2 100 twin
1980 suzuki gs 550 rat cafe project
1981 kawi 550A1 hooligan bike project
1981 kawi kz 750 ltd
1998 yamaha yzinger

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02 May 2010 05:25 #364915 by Kawickrice
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Have you checked to see if you have voltage going into both coils?

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07 HD CVO Ultra Classic
82 Suzuki GS 1100
74 Yamaha RD 350 (My two stroke toy)
77 Kawasaki KZ 650B-1 (My putt around bike)
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02 May 2010 05:33 #364919 by 2 stroker
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not yet,broken lead on my meter, I will have to stick a wire in it for now.

1965 suzuki s32 150 twin
1972 yamaha ls2 100 twin
1980 suzuki gs 550 rat cafe project
1981 kawi 550A1 hooligan bike project
1981 kawi kz 750 ltd
1998 yamaha yzinger

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02 May 2010 05:38 #364921 by Kawickrice
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Do you have a test light?

73 Kawasaki Z1
07 HD CVO Ultra Classic
82 Suzuki GS 1100
74 Yamaha RD 350 (My two stroke toy)
77 Kawasaki KZ 650B-1 (My putt around bike)
80 Indian Moped (My American Iron)
1
Long Gone
75 Suzuki GT550
74 GT 380
79 RD 400 Daytona Special
72 Honda CL 175
74 Honda QA 50
Tampa FL

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02 May 2010 07:07 #364934 by 2 stroker
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I can spin one up or just make a lead for my meter,dont want to throw parts off my 550 at it (if they interchange that is)if I can track it or get help here first.

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1965 suzuki s32 150 twin
1972 yamaha ls2 100 twin
1980 suzuki gs 550 rat cafe project
1981 kawi 550A1 hooligan bike project
1981 kawi kz 750 ltd
1998 yamaha yzinger

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02 May 2010 07:25 #364938 by Old Man Rock
Replied by Old Man Rock on topic no spark at 2 and 3 cyls....not coil
Pick up a cheap little meter under $20 is good enough...
Problem with light meters, is they will turn on under +12Vdc so ok for somethings but not actual voltage, resistance or current measurements...

If you have a Harbor Freight in your area... Pick one of these ups for it also does tach and dwell.... Nice little unit for the price.... ;)

OK, so if you switched the coils and it fired on 2&3 then only a couple of places is the problem...

1) As mentioned, no +12Vdc to the 2/3 coil.
2) Faulty 2/3 coil
3) 2&3 Spark plug conductor/cap faulty. Doubt this one but possible....
4) 2&3 Ignition components faulty... either points/condenser or electronic pickup as well....
5) Open continuity in conductor (break in conductor) feed from power or ignition plate itself to the coil.

As mentioned and truly wise advise, a DVM (Digital Volt Meter) is a required tool you need in your possession especially on a 30 year old wiring harness and electrical system... ;)

Let's see, did I forget something.... Others feel free to chime in...

OMR

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02 May 2010 07:41 #364944 by 2 stroker
Replied by 2 stroker on topic no spark at 2 and 3 cyls....not coil
I do have a good meter just the lead is broken off in the hole,I will have to dig it out and fab something up,thanks for the help,really dig your bike by the way, I followed quite a bit of the build seems a couple years back,have not been around much.....I took a good fall and have been out of things for the last couple years,I just picked this clean 750 and it got me motivated to head out to the garage and get going on it.

Thanks again.

1965 suzuki s32 150 twin
1972 yamaha ls2 100 twin
1980 suzuki gs 550 rat cafe project
1981 kawi 550A1 hooligan bike project
1981 kawi kz 750 ltd
1998 yamaha yzinger

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02 May 2010 07:44 - 02 May 2010 07:47 #364947 by Patton
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Plug cap might have faulty connection to wire.

Sometimes helps to remove cap and trim back the wire (snip off a short piece) whereby the cap may be reattached with a better connection.

Do this on both wires to assure good connections with both caps.

Good Fortune! :)

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04 May 2010 19:29 #365586 by 2 stroker
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got voltage to the coil,swapped it with known good one and it fires on all four????kinda weird when it fired swapping the leads:unsure: , but now it backfires ,lean condition?unburned fuel in the pipes?....I figure I have to clean the carbs again,I cleaned the carbs,muratic acided the tank,put on a russel bronze fuel filter, I thought I got them clean but must have missed something.

the bike sat for a few years,someone laid it down with 12000 miles on it and busted the fairing.nice clean $50.00 score though.

damn rookie.


thanks guys,your the best.

1965 suzuki s32 150 twin
1972 yamaha ls2 100 twin
1980 suzuki gs 550 rat cafe project
1981 kawi 550A1 hooligan bike project
1981 kawi kz 750 ltd
1998 yamaha yzinger

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