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22 Apr 2010 21:21 #362517 by ckotul
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Hey guys. I had to replace one of my turn signals today and something odd is going on. On the signal I replaced, the turning light always stays lit, and there is no running light. When I turn on the signal, the light goes completed off and on, unlike my other front signal that just alternates between the running light and the brighter turning light. I have a feeling it's somewhere in my wiring, because when I tested other signals on the same plugs they did the same thing. Any suggestions??? Thanks!

1977 KZ650C1

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22 Apr 2010 21:36 #362522 by bountyhunter
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Are you sure you installed a dual filament bulb type signal? There should be two hot wires, the 8W filament is the running light and the 18W filament is the turn signal. If it is a single filament type, it goes on the rear.

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22 Apr 2010 22:12 #362528 by MFolks
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For the front turn signal/running light a #1157 dual filiment bulb is needed.

On the rear signals, #1156 single filiment bulbs are used.
#1157 is also used in the brake/tail light circuit.

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23 Apr 2010 05:48 #362551 by ckotul
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Yep, the new bulb is dual filament and I tried the bulb from the other front signal and it does the same thing. I have a feeling it may be in the wiring or the maybe the flasher relay?

1977 KZ650C1

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23 Apr 2010 11:06 #362613 by MFolks
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I'd suggest checking the wiring and replacing the flasher can. They fail after a few years.

1982 GPZ1100 B2
General Dynamics/Convair 1983-1993
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23 Apr 2010 12:56 - 23 Apr 2010 12:57 #362633 by patmann
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I too had this problem a few years ago. As I remember it ..
I had some small amounts of rust/corrosion inside the bulb socket.
Use fine sandpaper INSIDE the socket and wiggle the bulb a bit until it gets good contact and works as it should.
Again, As I remember it that is what I did to fix my problem.
Could be wrong, could be right :unsure:
Regards, Pat

1974 900 Z1 modified to look like a LTD , some engine mods. But I still have all the original parts.
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23 Apr 2010 13:00 #362635 by otakar
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If the flasher works on the one side but not on the new signal there is nothing wrong with it. He just flipped the wires around. The black wire with the white or yellow stripe is the common negative the bright color wire (what ever color it might be usually blue or red) is the flasher. The neutral solid color wire (gray, green, or solid black) is the running light.

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76 KZ-900 Totaly stock vice MAC pipe
77 KZ-1000A stock
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23 Apr 2010 13:01 #362637 by otakar
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patmann wrote:

I too had this problem a few years ago. As I remember it ..
I had some small amounts of rust/corrosion inside the bulb socket.
Use fine sandpaper INSIDE the socket and wiggle the bulb a bit until it gets good contact and works as it should.
Again, As I remember it that is what I did to fix my problem.
Could be wrong, could be right :unsure:
Regards, Pat


This is a new light there should be no corrosion.

74 Z1-A stock
76 KZ-900 Totaly stock vice MAC pipe
77 KZ-1000A stock
78 Z1-R 100%MINT 500 original Mi.
78 Z1-R Yoshi 1103 kit stage 1 cams Yoshi pipe. Etc
79 KZ-1300 (1400)
80 KZ-1300
81 Scratch built GPz1150R
82 KZ1000

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27 Apr 2010 09:37 #363558 by ckotul
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Otakar, you were right the wires were crossed. Thanks!

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