1979 KZ1300 Performance Ignition?

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13 Apr 2010 18:17 #360465 by paulstanely45
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Hello,

I was wondering if anyone was able to ever find a performance ignition system for an 1979 KZ1300. I know it already uses electronic ignition, but is there anything I can put on it better than that?

Is there anywhere online where I can get a brand new igniter module for the bike?

My big concern is that if it fails, I don't know where to get another. If I was to put on an aftermarket ignition system, it would be easily replaceable.

1977 KZ650-B

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13 Apr 2010 18:45 #360484 by MFolks
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These guy's probably know what you'll need:
www.kz1300.com/tech.html

1982 GPZ1100 B2
General Dynamics/Convair 1983-1993
GLCM BGM-109 Tomahawk, AGM-129A Advanced Cruise Missile (ACM)

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13 Apr 2010 18:53 #360486 by MFolks
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Another thought:
If your pick up coils are good and you're afraid of ignition failure, why not use "Loudhvx's" IC Igniter diagram he made and uses on his GPz550?

I suggest you contact him and see if he can make you a diagram for your 1300. You'll need three GM modules, but they will only work for engines with the mechanical ignition advancers.

1982 GPZ1100 B2
General Dynamics/Convair 1983-1993
GLCM BGM-109 Tomahawk, AGM-129A Advanced Cruise Missile (ACM)

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13 Apr 2010 19:09 #360490 by loudhvx
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A few months ago someone with a 79 1300 emailed me for help on making one of the HEI mods and I think he finished it, but I didn't get a chance to ask him how it turned out. I never got a response back from him on the pickup wire polarity either.

It should work as long as the pickup polarity is right and the pickups generally work the same. I believe the timing rotor (the iron slug part) is the same on the fours and twins.

home.comcast.net/~loudgpz/GPZweb/Ignition/GPZgmHEImod.html

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13 Apr 2010 19:47 #360498 by MFolks
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For those rider's using the 4 pin GM module ignition, I have researched some cross index numbers from the different manufacturers:


AC DELCO
DM 1906 or D1906

WELLS
DR 100

ACCEL
ACC 35361/ACC 35367

PERTRONIX
D2000

CAR QUEST
21040

NAPA ECHLIN
ECH TP45

NIEHOFF
DR 400

BORG WARNER
Select CBE4/CBE22

GM
10482820

Mallory
607

Jegs
555-40600

Moroso
97857


I don't know if you can get this contact cleaner/preservative there, but it's what I use on all my electrical contacts.

www.deoxit.com is the website and is carried in the Radio Shack stores in the U.S. and most any other electronic supply places.

1982 GPZ1100 B2
General Dynamics/Convair 1983-1993
GLCM BGM-109 Tomahawk, AGM-129A Advanced Cruise Missile (ACM)

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13 Apr 2010 20:04 #360501 by PLUMMEN
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what is the firing order/cylinder pairing on a 1300 6? :blink:

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13 Apr 2010 20:24 - 13 Apr 2010 20:28 #360512 by loudhvx
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All inline sixes (I have ever heard of) pair 1-6, 2-5, 3-4. Obviously there are two possible firing orders (that you'd want to use). They are the same, really since one is the reverse of the other.

1, 5, 3, 6, 2, 4, or the reverse of that.

Inline sixes are known for being smooth, more so than even v-8's most of the time. The primary balance can be near perfect.
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13 Apr 2010 20:26 #360514 by paulstanely45
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1-5-3-6-2-4

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13 Apr 2010 20:41 - 13 Apr 2010 20:44 #360520 by loudhvx
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The real question for you gearheads is why is there really only one possible firing order (or its reverse) for the classic American v-8?

You would not believe how many so-called mechanics I've run into who didn't even know the bank angle or crank design etc on their own muscle cars? So many of them seem to think all American v-8s are different, but they are about "60 degrees or so".
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