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07 Apr 2010 02:50 - 07 Apr 2010 02:54 #358914 by Gra
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I have been working through the wiring problems on my 79 KZ650 and have been able to work out what most of the symbols are.

Can anyone tell me what the double circle connections mean on the attached wiring diagram? Is the connection meant to be earthed to the frame??

Cheers everyone.

1979 KZ650 - Under restoration
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07 Apr 2010 03:13 #358917 by Gra
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I have now attached an image of part of the diagram - apologies for the low resolution...

The connections are two circles connecting a wire.

Help please...

1979 KZ650 - Under restoration
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07 Apr 2010 05:15 #358931 by Old Man Rock
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Depicts frame ground....

Your wiring diagram should also have a symbol chart/identifier such as this on mine....

OMR

1976 KZ900-A4
MTC 1075cc.
Camshafts: Kawi GPZ-1100 .375 lift
Head: P&P via Larry Cavanaugh
ZX636 suspension
MIKUNI, RS-34'S...
Kerker 4-1, 1.5" comp baffle.
Dyna-S E.I.
Earls 10 row Oil Cooler
Acewell 2802 Series Speedo/Tach
Innovate LC1 Wideband 02 AFR meter

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07 Apr 2010 05:26 #358932 by T_Dub
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If you look closely OMR, one of those is on the positive side of the battery. Note, its on both poles of the battery, both sides of the starter relay, and all 4 signal light grounds. I'd be inclined to say it just indicates a bolted connection with the wire going into terminal rings.

1977 KZ650B1
-810cc
-Cavanaugh Racing Head
-Mikuni RS34's
-GPR Muffler

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07 Apr 2010 05:52 - 07 Apr 2010 05:53 #358939 by Old Man Rock
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Good point T... ;)

I was actually referring to as in my diagram the designation chart reference being on his wiring diagram...

Could also depict a bolted/screwed termination but don't have his drawing...

Then there's always as we have found in numerous OEM drawings... errors...

1976 KZ900-A4
MTC 1075cc.
Camshafts: Kawi GPZ-1100 .375 lift
Head: P&P via Larry Cavanaugh
ZX636 suspension
MIKUNI, RS-34'S...
Kerker 4-1, 1.5" comp baffle.
Dyna-S E.I.
Earls 10 row Oil Cooler
Acewell 2802 Series Speedo/Tach
Innovate LC1 Wideband 02 AFR meter

Phoenix, Az
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07 Apr 2010 06:12 - 07 Apr 2010 06:13 #358943 by T_Dub
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Yeah, I'd say as long as the wires are connected to the correct places, you're good to go. I don't think they had any frame grounds mid line, so I just treat all the circles and arrows the same. As long as the wires are connected to their buddies you're good to go.

I didn't realize you were talking about yours lol.

1977 KZ650B1
-810cc
-Cavanaugh Racing Head
-Mikuni RS34's
-GPR Muffler
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07 Apr 2010 09:22 #358980 by MFolks
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The battery in most motorcycles is connected to the frame (usually on an engine mounting bolt)from the BLACK or NEGATIVE(-) terminal.

Kawasaki in it's infinite wisdom may have decided to add additional grounding areas for redundency.

In some electrical circuits this could induce a "Ground Loop" creating a "Hum" in audio devices.

I don't see it causing any problems in motorcycle use.

1982 GPZ1100 B2
General Dynamics/Convair 1983-1993
GLCM BGM-109 Tomahawk, AGM-129A Advanced Cruise Missile (ACM)

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07 Apr 2010 09:39 - 07 Apr 2010 10:37 #358986 by loudhvx
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They usually represent a bolt connection, but not necessarily ground.

You can have as many ground points on the engine or frame as you want, as long as they are good connections. It's when they get dirty or become disconnected that wierd problems will show up. It's better to rely on actual ground wires for everything then tie the ground wire to the frame and then to the engine right where the battery negative cable ataches to the engine. The reason you want to have the negative battery cable go to the engine is because the starter uses the engine as ground.
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07 Apr 2010 10:28 - 07 Apr 2010 10:29 #358998 by N0NB
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My experience is that those circles indicate a "bullet" connector where the harness can be unplugged from the device.

Frame ground is indicated by a line with three angled lines coming from the line and the wiring coming from the other side of the line.

Nate

Nates vintage bike axiom: Riding is the reward for time spent wrenching.
Murphys corollary: Wrenching is the result of time spent riding.

1979 KZ650 (Complete!)
1979 KZ650 SR (Sold!)
1979 KL250 (For sale)
1994 Bayou 400 (four wheel peel :D )
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08 Apr 2010 23:43 #359413 by Gra
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Thanks for the posts.

NONB, I think you are correct as there are frame grounds depicted as you say elsewhere in the diagram. I will go with a bullet connector idea and see where it leads me...

1979 KZ650 - Under restoration

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09 Apr 2010 08:02 - 09 Apr 2010 08:07 #359457 by loudhvx
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Gra wrote:

I have now attached an image of part of the diagram - apologies for the low resolution...

The connections are two circles connecting a wire.

Help please...


These circled connections are for the heavy battery cables. Obviously they are not bullet connectors. They are bolts. The one by the marker light is probably the ground point (bolt) as the light may be a one-wire light. Notice the other one on the starter motor. Obviously the starter cable is not held with a bullet either. It is a bolt. (T-dub already mentioned all of this, by the way. Even in OMR's photo, the circle is a bolt holding the ground connection.)
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