- Posts: 2440
- Thank you received: 28
Flashers' erratic!
- TeK9iNe
- Topic Author
- Offline
- User
- What did you do!?!
Less
More
08 Jul 2009 19:21 #305538
by TeK9iNe
Motorcycle Shop Owner/Operator
79 Kawie Z1000 LTD
81 Kawie Z1000 CSR
83 Honda VT750C A
85 Kawie GPZ900 A2
86 Zukie GS1150 EG
93 Yamie XV1100 E
Lucky to have rolled many old bikes through my doors
Flashers' erratic! was created by TeK9iNe
OK... another problem with my bike. I think I've had just about every prob you could possibly have. Well, I guess I should stop there, so as not to jinx myself... engine is pretty rock solid.
My flashers work fine until the bike gets into higher rpm's, the they no longer blink, and just pretty much stay on solid. As I slow down, the flashers start to blink properly again.
Stator is putting out about 45VAC on each line at 4000rpm. Battery is 1 yr old, holds at 12.37VDC at all times. At 4000rpm, it measures 13.81VDC at 4000rpm and I've never had any charging or power loss problems since I replaced the stator.
Makes me think reg/rect. But everything other than the flashers is ok. OH YEAH, replaced flasher units for signals/hazards in the winter.
? So whats up?
Cheers.
My flashers work fine until the bike gets into higher rpm's, the they no longer blink, and just pretty much stay on solid. As I slow down, the flashers start to blink properly again.
Stator is putting out about 45VAC on each line at 4000rpm. Battery is 1 yr old, holds at 12.37VDC at all times. At 4000rpm, it measures 13.81VDC at 4000rpm and I've never had any charging or power loss problems since I replaced the stator.
Makes me think reg/rect. But everything other than the flashers is ok. OH YEAH, replaced flasher units for signals/hazards in the winter.
? So whats up?
Cheers.
Motorcycle Shop Owner/Operator
79 Kawie Z1000 LTD
81 Kawie Z1000 CSR
83 Honda VT750C A
85 Kawie GPZ900 A2
86 Zukie GS1150 EG
93 Yamie XV1100 E
Lucky to have rolled many old bikes through my doors
Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.
- Old Man Rock
- Offline
- User
Less
More
- Posts: 6224
- Thank you received: 225
08 Jul 2009 19:49 #305541
by Old Man Rock
1976 KZ900-A4
MTC 1075cc.
Camshafts: Kawi GPZ-1100 .375 lift
Head: P&P via Larry Cavanaugh
ZX636 suspension
MIKUNI, RS-34'S...
Kerker 4-1, 1.5" comp baffle.
Dyna-S E.I.
Earls 10 row Oil Cooler
Acewell 2802 Series Speedo/Tach
Innovate LC1 Wideband 02 AFR meter
Phoenix, Az
Replied by Old Man Rock on topic Flashers' erratic!
When you say flasher, safe to assume you're speaking of "flasher" as in the relay and you've installed L.E.D. technologies?
"replaced flasher units for signals/hazards"
Since your ramping higher in voltage with higher rpm's this is changing your current/load sensing of the relay...
Example: 12Vdc / 2 ohms = 6 amps...
Since resistance (load) is fixed in our bikes, you now have the following in your situation...
~ 13.81Vdc / 2 ohms = 6.9amps
Just in this easy example, you've gained almost 1 amp difference in current draws....
For my LED conversion, I used the following from AutoZone Tridon EP 35... It is designed for Use auto load sensing for LED technologies.
www.tridon.com.au/products/Product.aspx?SG=8&S=35&G=478&P=2000
Maybe it will help....
OMR
"replaced flasher units for signals/hazards"
Since your ramping higher in voltage with higher rpm's this is changing your current/load sensing of the relay...
Example: 12Vdc / 2 ohms = 6 amps...
Since resistance (load) is fixed in our bikes, you now have the following in your situation...
~ 13.81Vdc / 2 ohms = 6.9amps
Just in this easy example, you've gained almost 1 amp difference in current draws....
For my LED conversion, I used the following from AutoZone Tridon EP 35... It is designed for Use auto load sensing for LED technologies.
www.tridon.com.au/products/Product.aspx?SG=8&S=35&G=478&P=2000
Maybe it will help....
OMR
1976 KZ900-A4
MTC 1075cc.
Camshafts: Kawi GPZ-1100 .375 lift
Head: P&P via Larry Cavanaugh
ZX636 suspension
MIKUNI, RS-34'S...
Kerker 4-1, 1.5" comp baffle.
Dyna-S E.I.
Earls 10 row Oil Cooler
Acewell 2802 Series Speedo/Tach
Innovate LC1 Wideband 02 AFR meter
Phoenix, Az
Attachments:
Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.
- bountyhunter
- Offline
- User
Less
More
- Posts: 7246
- Thank you received: 337
09 Jul 2009 01:20 - 09 Jul 2009 01:23 #305576
by bountyhunter
1979 KZ-750 Twin
Replied by bountyhunter on topic Flashers' erratic!
He beat me to it. Sounds like your reg is working right and raising the system voltage up near 14V at higher RPM, which is changing current draw.
Assuming the flasher isn't just blown, the "no flash" syndrome is caused by inadequate current to make the flasher heat up. It can be a blown out turn signal bulb or use of LED lights. If you run LEDs, you should use a solid state flasher unit. Superbrightleds.com sells them.
Assuming the flasher isn't just blown, the "no flash" syndrome is caused by inadequate current to make the flasher heat up. It can be a blown out turn signal bulb or use of LED lights. If you run LEDs, you should use a solid state flasher unit. Superbrightleds.com sells them.
1979 KZ-750 Twin
Last edit: 09 Jul 2009 01:23 by bountyhunter.
Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.
- JR
- Offline
- Sustaining Member
Less
More
- Posts: 2936
- Thank you received: 446
09 Jul 2009 15:37 - 09 Jul 2009 15:37 #305718
by JR
1980 kz750E1, Delkevic exhaust
Replied by JR on topic Flashers' erratic!
Oh Boy !
When I saw the title of the post I had to do a double take.
At first glance I saw "Flashers Erotic" and thought WOW !
I must have a filthy mind
:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
When I saw the title of the post I had to do a double take.
At first glance I saw "Flashers Erotic" and thought WOW !
I must have a filthy mind
:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
1980 kz750E1, Delkevic exhaust
Last edit: 09 Jul 2009 15:37 by JR.
Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.
- TeK9iNe
- Topic Author
- Offline
- User
- What did you do!?!
Less
More
- Posts: 2440
- Thank you received: 28
11 Jul 2009 10:33 #306189
by TeK9iNe
Motorcycle Shop Owner/Operator
79 Kawie Z1000 LTD
81 Kawie Z1000 CSR
83 Honda VT750C A
85 Kawie GPZ900 A2
86 Zukie GS1150 EG
93 Yamie XV1100 E
Lucky to have rolled many old bikes through my doors
Replied by TeK9iNe on topic Flashers' erratic!
Thank you gentlemen! , as usual a plethora of info!
Go KZR members!
LOL! Cheers to that...
Thanks all..
Go KZR members!
When I saw the title of the post I had to do a double take.
At first glance I saw "Flashers Erotic" and thought WOW !
LOL! Cheers to that...
Thanks all..
Motorcycle Shop Owner/Operator
79 Kawie Z1000 LTD
81 Kawie Z1000 CSR
83 Honda VT750C A
85 Kawie GPZ900 A2
86 Zukie GS1150 EG
93 Yamie XV1100 E
Lucky to have rolled many old bikes through my doors
Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.