Using a Dyna S on a 82 1000LTD

I read the intsalation manual for the Dyna S somewhere around here and it said for my bike i need a mech advance.
Whats the deal with this? Anyone done it what do I need?
Thanks
Tom

On the right side of the engine(as you sit on the seat) under a CD shaped cover should be the mechanical advancer they mention. A bolt secures the advancer to the crankshaft.

It advances/retards the ignition using weights and springs by rpm. I'd clean and lubricate this as it probably hasn't been serviced in a while.

Dyna S Ignition System is a complete self-contained electronic ignition system built with the latest state-of-the-art engineering. This is the same ignition used by top racers over the past 2 decades. The Dyna S is completely housed behind the ignition cover and uses a magnetic rotor with the original spark advancer, so the factory advance curve is maintained.
The venerable Dyna S ignition System is a time proven solution to the basic ignition needs of the vintage muscle bike. As a stand alone ignition the Dyna S is the standard of performance and reliability.

www.z1enterprises.com/detail.aspx?ID=200

So my 82 has the mech advance the dyna manual makes it sound like it dosnt.

looking at jeffs site if you have one of these your ok.
what parts did you get in your kit?

i got
coils
leads
ignition box
pick ups
and a billet rotor.

I havnt bought it yet just doin some reserch before spending $.
thanks
Tom

if you still have you old one just clean it up good ube the pivot points on the weights and install you dyna s trigger and it will work great.

if you check my project thread on kzr there is some to and throw about dyna 4000 2000 dyna s the basic out come was i bought a dyna 2000 full kit from jeff at z1e.

Here is what is throin me off "The Dyna S electronic ingition system wasdesigned as a points replacement, but can be used an many late model motorcycles with the addition of a mechanical advancer" from the instructions for the Dyna S. Does this apply to my bike with the factory electronic ignition?
Thanks
Tom

it is only worth doing it if you buy the whole kit for ppl with the j motor as it didn't have points.

the Dyna2000 computer module would be the only reason for a change.
It gives u dif advance maps, and a rev limiter.
U already had pointless electronic signal, so there may be no gain there.
all u may gain is new parts over old.
if you get the module you need magnetic rotor,
hence the whole kit purchase.

thomas ed wrote:

Here is what is throin me off "The Dyna S electronic ingition system wasdesigned as a points replacement, but can be used an many late model motorcycles with the addition of a mechanical advancer" from the instructions for the Dyna S. Does this apply to my bike with the factory electronic ignition?
Thanks
Tom

This is confusing to me also.
Could well be wrong, but seem to recall reading that somewhere along the line Kawasaki igniter assumed the mechanical advancer duties.

Yet Z1E does indeed list the Dyna-S for 1982 KZ1000LTD, but with pics of the spring-weight style advancer.

If Tom is correctly interpreting the Dyna-S instructions, am wondering if Dyna is saying the spring-weight style advancer unit from an earlier model is needed to bolt right into the 1982 KZ1000LTD. :huh:

Would suggest confirming model application with Z1E prior to ordering, and further info regarding whatever different advancer may be required, and any other ignition parts swapping necessary.

Here's the ignition diagram from kawasaki.com, and the parts list which doesn't exactly refer to an advancer as described on parts diagrams for earlier models with the spring-weight style.

Which part on the diagram, if any, is the mechanical advancer?

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REF NUMBER PART NUMBER DESCRIPTION QUANTITY US CA CN REMARKS

110 112G0616 BOLT-UPSET,6X16 1
220 220B0512 SCREW PAN HEAD 5X12 3
461 461F0600 WASHER SPRING 6MM 1
21119 21119-1041 IGNITER 1
21121 21121-1038 COIL-IGNITION 1
21121A 21121-1039 COIL-IGNITION 1
21130 21130-1007 CAP-SPARK PLUG,RTFM2 2
21130A 21130-1010 CAP-SPARK PLUG 2
21148 21148-1020 GOVERNOR-BREAKER 1
59026 59026-1012 COIL-PULSING 1
92001 92001-1397 BOLT-8X63 1
92015 92015-1078 NUT-6MM 4
92022 92022-244 WASHER,SPARK ADVANCE 1
92037 21126-008 CLAMP,WIRING HARNESS 4
92070 B8ES SPARK PLUG B8ES 4
92070B BR8ES SPARK PLUG BR8ES 4
92071 21131-004 GROMMET-PLUG CAP,A 2
92071A 21131-005 GROMMET,HIGH TENSION 2
92071B 21131-006 GROMMET,PLUG CAP 2
92071C 21132-005 GROMMET,SPARK PLG CA 2

could be wrong but i think the mech. adv. on the 82 will work fine..people buy the dyna s to get rid of the ignitor..as this is sometimes a weak point in the ignition..