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25 Aug 2008 06:06 #233866 by BSKZ650
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Dont use the octane booster, The crap does not mix even with the fuel, learned this the hard way with a hole in the piston.
If you havent tried super unleaded then adj on the timing can help.

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25 Aug 2008 08:49 #233892 by mtkawboy
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You could buy a can of race gas at an automotive performance place that sells to drag racers & mix it but thats not too handy on long rides. Slot the holes on the timing plate {?} to where it will turn and retard it a bit and see how it goes

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25 Aug 2008 10:45 #233908 by Skyman
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Any advice on how many degrees to retard it? How far is too far?

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25 Aug 2008 11:12 #233911 by BSKZ650
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I would work in 2 degree increments, I dont think you should move more than that.

on another thought, what about maybe trying one step colder plugs, just a thought

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25 Aug 2008 11:49 #233913 by Skyman
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BSKZ650 wrote:

on another thought, what about maybe trying one step colder plugs, just a thought


Yeah, that was suggested earlier in this thread. I may try that first. Are there any potentially undesirable side effects to going with colder plugs?

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25 Aug 2008 13:10 #233925 by bountyhunter
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Skyman wrote:

BSKZ650 wrote:

on another thought, what about maybe trying one step colder plugs, just a thought


Yeah, that was suggested earlier in this thread. I may try that first. Are there any potentially undesirable side effects to going with colder plugs?


They will foul frequently in city riding where you are not revving up a lot.

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25 Aug 2008 13:27 - 25 Aug 2008 13:35 #233930 by Patton
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Skyman wrote:
[quote... any potentially undesirable side effects to going with colder plugs?[/quote]

FSM cautions that a colder plug may not run hot enough to keep the carbon burned off; then goes on to warn that the carbon build-up can heat up red-hot and cause preignition and knocking, which may eventually burn a hole in the top of the piston.

Accordingly, imo it would be a good idea to read the colder plugs often to assure running hot enough to stay tan color, and if not (appearing carboned or sooty), return to the standard size plug giving the tan color reading.

Good Luck! :)

P.S. -- If testing the colder range spark plugs, would do that first before retarding the timing, so the remedial efforts are not mixed together without knowing which if either change has the most effect.

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25 Aug 2008 15:16 #233954 by Skyman
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Patton wrote:

P.S. -- If testing the colder range spark plugs, would do that first before retarding the timing, so the remedial efforts are not mixed together without knowing which if either change has the most effect.


Roger that. Thanks!

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