Charging System Not Working? Please Help!

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17 Dec 2005 11:40 #13579 by DJMoto
I have a 1976 Z1, and the charging system is not working? I have replaced the stator and the rectifier and regulator with units that are known to be good.(But not brand new)
Also, I tried aftermarket parts and still it is not working.
Any ideas would be helpful?

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17 Dec 2005 12:10 #13580 by wiredgeorge
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First, how do you know your charging system isn't working? Is the battery going dead?

You have replaced stuff. Have you done any troubleshooting? When you run the bike, did you measure the AC coming off the stator? Have you measured the voltage on your battery when the bike is idling and then when you kick up the rpms?

Last, has the battery been checked with a hydrometer to ensure cells are not dead?

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17 Dec 2005 12:20 #13582 by OKC_Kent
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I uploaded an Electrical Fault Finding Chart to our Filebase section. It was a great help to me at one time, maybe now it will help you.

Click the 'Community' tab at the top of the page, then 'Filebase' on the drop down menu. Then click "Not model specific", and it is at the end of Page 3.

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17 Dec 2005 12:25 #13586 by wireguy
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try disconecting ground cable while motor is running,should stay running if charging

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17 Dec 2005 12:56 #13589 by DJMoto
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The Battery in new, and all these things have been checked. The ac voltage is Apx. 70 volts at 4000rpms and all other things check out fine?
This is my problem?

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17 Dec 2005 12:59 #13590 by Samwell
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What kind of troubles are you having? With the engine idling, put your voltmeter on the battery terminals.Less than about 12.5volts or more than 14.5volts is probably out of spec and you need to dig further. Too low means check the stator, too high and the reg/rect is on its way out. This of course assumes that your battery is fully charged and in good shape. Start with the easy stuff first and be methodical. Get a new or known good fully charge battery, make sure the connections are clean and tight and then test.

I used to own an old Suzi GS. These had weak charging systems so I've been through it a few times. Patience is your friend.

Sam

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17 Dec 2005 14:46 #13600 by OKC_Kent
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DJMoto wrote:

The Battery in new, and all these things have been checked.


All "what things" have been checked?

The ac voltage is Apx. 70 volts at 4000rpms and all other things check out fine?


That sounds ok, did you do the "fault finding chart" yet?

Again, all "what things" have been checked?

This is my problem?


Still need more details.

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17 Dec 2005 14:53 #13601 by wireguy
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kent .is sid pogue still running a shp in oklahoma city?

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17 Dec 2005 16:06 #13608 by Duck
your bike is cursed

the only fix is to swap it for one of my derelicts and get yourself a new and interesting set of problems.

How about this fine CX500!






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17 Dec 2005 20:32 #13628 by OKC_Kent
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wireguy wrote:

kent .is sid pogue still running a shp in oklahoma city?


I believe so, it's in the 2005 Yellow Pages..
Pogue Machine Co (405) 677-9397 3700 S High Ave Oklahoma City, OK

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78 KZ650 B2 82,000+ miles

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17 Dec 2005 23:22 #13639 by loudhvx
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wireguy wrote:

try disconecting ground cable while motor is running,should stay running if charging

This is not a good idea. JTMcculoch melted his electrical system because of this. It's in the archives somewhere.

Never really figured out why, though.

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18 Dec 2005 11:40 #13657 by wireguy
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thats weird,disconecting the ground cable shouldnt cause a problem .if the charging system is working the motor should keep running off the alternator unless he has a bunch of disconected ground wires.ill see if i can find his post .

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