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09 Jul 2013 16:50 #595721 by mtkawboy
www.enginelabs.com/news/carb-defender-de...e-effects-of-ethanol Just saw this today in a newsletter I get. I have no idea of if it works, no finacial interest of any kind. I just thought Id pass it on

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09 Jul 2013 17:28 #595722 by bountyhunter
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I found the Lucas fuel conditioner to be outstanding. I have gas sitting in my bike for many weeks and it never oxidizes. I used to have to clean my carbs every six months. I haven't worked on them for at least four years now that I use the Lucas stuff.

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09 Jul 2013 17:30 #595723 by danger_bandito
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Cool stuff. Although I've always gone with the saying "If it sounds too good to be true, it probably is." I would just play the safer route and find ethonol free gasoline. Better safe than sorry.

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10 Jul 2013 16:08 #595844 by mtkawboy
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I would too but sometimes that isnt an option. In Billings, a town of about 105,000 theres 2 stations that sell premium alcohol free gas. Its OK running its the setting thats hard on the carbs

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11 Jul 2013 11:38 #595981 by martin_csr
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If my bike sits for much more than a week, I drain the carbs w the petcock set to PRI to give them a flushing, typically about a quart of fuel total but sometimes 2-3 quarts. I also try to keep at least 2 gallons of fuel in the tank. It's best to keep the tank full to reduce the exposure to air.

Gasoline goes bad as a function of time, temperature, & quantity. The longer it sits, the more it deteriorates. The higher the temps & the smaller the amount, the quicker it goes bad. Ethanol exacerbates the problem of fuel going bad as it has a tendency to absorb moisture. Theoretically, the alcohol/water mix separates out & the gasoline floats on top, so draining & flushing the carbs may remove some of the alcohol/water from the tank, but I have no idea how much time must pass before the separation occurs. I sometimes leave the drained fuel in a clear container for a couple of weeks, and I've never seen any separation.

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11 Jul 2013 13:15 #595999 by steell

danger_bandito wrote: Cool stuff. Although I've always gone with the saying "If it sounds too good to be true, it probably is." I would just play the safer route and find ethonol free gasoline. Better safe than sorry.


Not in Indiana, by law gasoline must be 10% Ethanol at the retail pump.

Sucks.

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11 Jul 2013 17:22 - 11 Jul 2013 17:24 #596042 by bountyhunter
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steell wrote:

danger_bandito wrote: Cool stuff. Although I've always gone with the saying "If it sounds too good to be true, it probably is." I would just play the safer route and find ethonol free gasoline. Better safe than sorry.


Not in Indiana, by law gasoline must be 10% Ethanol at the retail pump.

Sucks.

Same in California, and there is talk of forcing it up to E-15. I guess the repair shops are not getting enough business.

But I swear to you all, the fuel related problems all disappeared when I started using Lucas fuel conditioner. I no longer have a job, so I put less than 1k miles a year on my bike. The gas sometimes sits in it for weeks without even starting the engine. In five years, zero problems and zero work done to the fuel system. I wish I had found this stuff years ago.

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11 Jul 2013 22:44 #596092 by 821000ltd
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Check out wwwpure-gas.org

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11 Jul 2013 22:45 #596093 by 821000ltd
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Oops make that www.pure-gas.org

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11 Jul 2013 22:49 #596095 by Motor Head
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bountyhunter wrote:

steell wrote:

danger_bandito wrote: Cool stuff. Although I've always gone with the saying "If it sounds too good to be true, it probably is." I would just play the safer route and find ethonol free gasoline. Better safe than sorry.


Not in Indiana, by law gasoline must be 10% Ethanol at the retail pump.

Sucks.

Same in California, and there is talk of forcing it up to E-15. I guess the repair shops are not getting enough business.

But I swear to you all, the fuel related problems all disappeared when I started using Lucas fuel conditioner. I no longer have a job, so I put less than 1k miles a year on my bike. The gas sometimes sits in it for weeks without even starting the engine. In five years, zero problems and zero work done to the fuel system. I wish I had found this stuff years ago.


Very sorry to here that, hope you find some work soon. I did work on the side, and bought and sold stuff till I took another job in a different state. Got to ride plenty then, now with full time work, I've had to cut that back. Still get several good rides in for at least 5K a year.

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12 Jul 2013 00:21 #596108 by z1kzonly
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Marvels Mystery Oil! Been around awhile!
Enough said here!
I'll debate anyone face to face! I have been using it for 40 years! for several different things!
The best stuff going!

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12 Jul 2013 04:26 - 12 Jul 2013 04:28 #596123 by bountyhunter
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Motor Head wrote:

bountyhunter wrote:

steell wrote:

danger_bandito wrote: Cool stuff. Although I've always gone with the saying "If it sounds too good to be true, it probably is." I would just play the safer route and find ethonol free gasoline. Better safe than sorry.


Not in Indiana, by law gasoline must be 10% Ethanol at the retail pump.

Sucks.

Same in California, and there is talk of forcing it up to E-15. I guess the repair shops are not getting enough business.

But I swear to you all, the fuel related problems all disappeared when I started using Lucas fuel conditioner. I no longer have a job, so I put less than 1k miles a year on my bike. The gas sometimes sits in it for weeks without even starting the engine. In five years, zero problems and zero work done to the fuel system. I wish I had found this stuff years ago.


Very sorry to here that, hope you find some work soon. I did work on the side, and bought and sold stuff till I took another job in a different state. Got to ride plenty then, now with full time work, I've had to cut that back. Still get several good rides in for at least 5K a year.

It's OK. My wife still has a good job, my house is paid for so I don't have to worry. I'm old and creaky anyway. I'll probably live longer now that I don't have to run in the rat race anymore. Screw em.

I have to ration my ride time because I have severe allergies and asthma so the great outdoors ain't so great to me. And our weather has been scorching hot which cooks the air and cranks up the ozone. We get those "lethal air warnings" a lot now. I still go for rides at least three times a week.

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