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06 Oct 2011 18:38 #481746 by STUNTMAN STEVE
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Ok,long story short.. rode my bike home from work last week, heads redone, carbs synched, runs great in the upper rpms, stubles and dies at idle, took the tank off to paint it and do a few changes to the bike overall..
Decided to get a clear glass and take a look at the gas in the float bowls, and found a good bit of crud.
trying to figure if I need to take the carbs off and go through them as I might have junk in the idle circuit, or just run some seafoam through it and see if it goes away... pretty newbish to bike carbs, but have rebuilt weber and dellortos before..
Thanks for any ideas, and if needed will go through the carbs starting this Sunday..( I work nights and weekends)

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06 Oct 2011 18:41 - 06 Oct 2011 18:42 #481748 by STUNTMAN STEVE
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Btw, 1984 gpz 750; good compression, pretty limited budget, decent hand tools, no compresser til next week or two..
But I have a manual
Steve

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06 Oct 2011 19:23 - 06 Oct 2011 19:25 #481761 by bountyhunter
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Take off the gas tank/petcock assembly and clean both. Check tank for rust. Install inline fuel filters. Drop float bowls and clean crud out of them.

I would take off the carb tops (where the air pistons are). Then you can use carb spray cleaner to clean the carbs out pretty well on the bike.

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06 Oct 2011 19:32 #481763 by MFolks
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Many a bike and car fire has been caused by using glass bodied fuel filters! Go to www.z1enterprises.com and get some of their plastic fuel filters.

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06 Oct 2011 19:42 #481764 by STUNTMAN STEVE
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I've got a few plastic ones lying around from my volkswagens, think they'll be fine?

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06 Oct 2011 23:32 #481813 by Motor Head
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STUNTMAN STEVE wrote: I've got a few plastic ones lying around from my volkswagens, think they'll be fine?

White Plastic, with the orange/ yellow paper inside? Probably fine, just check your flow out of the petcock sans filter, then with and make sure it doesn't restrict. Also with Plastic filters make sure it is clear of Hot Metal, like the head.

Seafoam shouldn't hurt any, but will it do anything? Best to remove and clean, carbs, tank, petcock, then install lines and filter.

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07 Oct 2011 02:12 #481836 by STUNTMAN STEVE
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bountyhunter wrote: Take off the gas tank/petcock assembly and clean both. Check tank for rust. Install inline fuel filters. Drop float bowls and clean crud out of them.

I would take off the carb tops (where the air pistons are). Then you can use carb spray cleaner to clean the carbs out pretty well on the bike.


Aere there any rubber diaphrams/ gaskets I have to worry about? I might just take them off, just don't wanna mess up the sync...

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07 Oct 2011 03:52 - 07 Oct 2011 03:53 #481843 by bountyhunter
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STUNTMAN STEVE wrote:

bountyhunter wrote: Take off the gas tank/petcock assembly and clean both. Check tank for rust. Install inline fuel filters. Drop float bowls and clean crud out of them.

I would take off the carb tops (where the air pistons are). Then you can use carb spray cleaner to clean the carbs out pretty well on the bike.


Aere there any rubber diaphrams/ gaskets I have to worry about? I might just take them off, just don't wanna mess up the sync...

When you take the carb tops off, be careful. The vacuum pistons have ruber diaphragms attached. Carefully inspect for holes or slits.

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07 Oct 2011 09:27 #481852 by Motor Head
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Here is the breakdown for your carb:



Then this might help:
www.kzrider.com/filebase/doc_download/50...retorrebuildtutorial

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07 Oct 2011 15:55 #481887 by STUNTMAN STEVE
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Thanks for the info motor head, I have the diagram in my manual for my carbies, but will definitely go through that tutorial. It was suggested that I take the bowls and the tops off and blow through them with carb cleaner. Just wanted to make sure I wasn't going to ruin anything by doing so.. I would like to try all options before pulling these things

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07 Oct 2011 16:26 #481893 by Motor Head
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STUNTMAN STEVE wrote: Thanks for the info motor head, I have the diagram in my manual for my carbies, but will definitely go through that tutorial. It was suggested that I take the bowls and the tops off and blow through them with carb cleaner. Just wanted to make sure I wasn't going to ruin anything by doing so.. I would like to try all options before pulling these things


probably faster to just pull them, those bowl screws are Phillips head and can be pretty tight. You need pressure pushing on the screwdriver to get them from rounding out. also very hard to be sure of the small transition circuits being clean, as with them still against the motor you can't see them.
But without a compressor, it will be hard to really clean them. Spray carb cleaner in a can has quite a bit of pressure though.

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07 Oct 2011 20:15 #481918 by bountyhunter
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Motor Head wrote:

STUNTMAN STEVE wrote: Thanks for the info motor head, I have the diagram in my manual for my carbies, but will definitely go through that tutorial. It was suggested that I take the bowls and the tops off and blow through them with carb cleaner. Just wanted to make sure I wasn't going to ruin anything by doing so.. I would like to try all options before pulling these things


probably faster to just pull them, those bowl screws are Phillips head and can be pretty tight. You need pressure pushing on the screwdriver to get them from rounding out.

Yeah, I have special made screwdrivers for removing bowl screws on the bike. If not, it's probably not doable on the bike or at least it would be a major pain.

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