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Re: Carb types

03 Mar 2011 10:48
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If fuel economy is a concern, stick with the 26's. I'm happy with mine and I have a 1075cc kit, but not much for my pipe/cams.
ya wimp! :laugh: i bet you dont even have a billet cam chain tensioner on there,youll have to move to california with craig so you guys can start your own unimpressively stock motorcycle club! :woohoo:

I have the chrome shift fork, though. Does that help?
is it a hardened steel chrome plated shift fork ? :laugh:
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03 Mar 2011 10:49
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It just looked shiny, so I went with it.

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Re: Carb types

03 Mar 2011 10:52
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Re: Carb types

03 Mar 2011 12:31
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If fuel economy is a concern, stick with the 26's. I'm happy with mine and I have a 1075cc kit, but not much for my pipe/cams.
ya wimp! :laugh: i bet you dont even have a billet cam chain tensioner on there,youll have to move to california with craig so you guys can start your own unimpressively stock motorcycle club! :woohoo:

Hey I'm in California with a stock engine too! (Throwing billet end plugs in asap, so I won't be eligable for membership for very much longer :side:)
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Re: Carb types

03 Mar 2011 12:37
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youll have to talk to craig,hes club founder/chapter president! :laugh:
dont worry im keeping my new ride stock for next 3 years for warranty reasons also! :laugh:
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Re: Carb types

03 Mar 2011 12:37
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Gotcha, I understood that; I guess I just worded my question the wrong way.

What makes a smooothbore a smoothbore? Other than the bore being smooth- aren't most carbs smooth on the inside to better mix the gas and air not to mention flow better? What is flat about a flatside [other than the side being flat. What's flat? Which side?]?

I saw something called a "26mm Smoothbore" the other day- did the guy have no clue or what? That ad caused me to rack my brain too hard which raised all these questions :)

To put things in a little context, my KZ900 has VM26's on it. People around here get all hot and bothered talking about 29mm smoothies. Would 29mm smoothies be the way to go on a stock 900 with a Kerker? I'd like to get a rack of VM28's, but fuel economy is important to me, so I feel like 28s or 29s would be useless with just a pipe.

Like said, its flat slide, not flat side. Which means the slide inside is rectangular shaped instead of round. This gives better air velocity characteristics.

Smoothbores generally have no cv style butterflys, and have a smoothed transition throughout including the slide base for better air volume transfer, especially at high speed/rpms.

You can use a larger smoothbore on smaller displacement bikes with fewer negative effects than large round slide carbs.

PS. The fuel economy will have nothing to do with the carb size, unless you ride at WOT all the time :laugh: It has to do with your right hand and pilot screw mixtures the most :P
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Ahhhhh.. Flat SLIDE!!!! Apparently I'm a little dyslexic.

So I don't have plans to bore my engine out, but I would like to throw a set of a lopey-er cams (without loosing much streetability) in sometime. Next up would be carbs. I'd think the VM28s would be more than adequate for said modifications, but how much more would I pay for 29mm smoothies?
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Re: Carb types

03 Mar 2011 12:39
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So, a "smoothed transition" in smoothbores (compared to VM26s) is kind of [not really] like porting and polishing your intake, no?
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Re: Carb types

03 Mar 2011 12:39 - 03 Mar 2011 12:40
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Significant. I just posted a set of 28's from SudmanRacing on Ebay in the Ebay thread. You'll probably be very satisfied with those, from what I've been told.

If you're looking at 29's you'll probably pay close to the same as new Keihin CRS 29's...

dynoman.net/carb/keiCR.html#cr29
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Re: Carb types

03 Mar 2011 12:41
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I'll have to talk to Dynoman - he's got all those junky CB models first. Scroll down to find the KZ model.

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Re: Carb types

03 Mar 2011 12:42
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No eBay at work :( I'll check when I get home. I'm also watching a set of 33mm smoothies. If they were jetted properly of course, would they be worthwhile or just be a pain?
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Re: Carb types

03 Mar 2011 13:32
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Significant. I just posted a set of 28's from SudmanRacing on Ebay in the Ebay thread. You'll probably be very satisfied with those, from what I've been told.

If you're looking at 29's you'll probably pay close to the same as new Keihin CRS 29's...

dynoman.net/carb/keiCR.html#cr29


Alright, so what's the difference between the Keihin CR29s and the Mikuni [I'm guessing they're Mikuni, don't know for sure though- please interject if I'm wrong!] smoothbore VM29s?
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Re: Carb types

03 Mar 2011 14:05
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they still make brand new crs and parts.
29 smooth bores are getting to be like finding origional afbs for a 409 chevy! :laugh:
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