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21 Jun 2007 15:12 #151557
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321,000 miles on KZ's that I can remember. Not going to see any more.
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You have those junk transition carbs. (Sorry for the bad words). I doubt anyone in the world knows how to tune those. According to Kawasaki they say turn the pilot screws (4 adjustments on the bottom of the carbs) all the way in, then turn the air screws out 2 turns. I question this procedure, but that's what they say. Assuming all those parts in your picture did actually come from your carburetors. I don't see the pilots or main jets were replaced. Sounds like one of your pilot jets is clogged.
321,000 miles on KZ's that I can remember. Not going to see any more.
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21 Jun 2007 16:50 #151575
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BSKZ650 wrote:
From NGK's website "For Japanese manufacturers (NGK, Denso), the higher the number, the colder the plug."
NGK lists the B7ES as the stock plug for 77-79 KZ650B, C's etc..
Under my seat it lists B7ES, my Clymer says B7ES etc...
you said you put B7ES plugs in, it should have B8ES, you are running a colder plug, it may not be firing correct with that plug
From NGK's website "For Japanese manufacturers (NGK, Denso), the higher the number, the colder the plug."
NGK lists the B7ES as the stock plug for 77-79 KZ650B, C's etc..
Under my seat it lists B7ES, my Clymer says B7ES etc...
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21 Jun 2007 17:06 #151586
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Tess: 1977 KZ650-C1. VM24, 97.5/15/3rd. Dyna-S. Stock exhaust, coil mod performed, BR7EIX.
Angel: 1982 GPz550. Stock. DR8EIX.
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Tess: 1977 KZ650-C1. VM24, 97.5/15/3rd. Dyna-S. Stock exhaust, coil mod performed, BR7EIX.
Angel: 1982 GPz550. Stock. DR8EIX.
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21 Jun 2007 17:11 #151589
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Tess: 1977 KZ650-C1. VM24, 97.5/15/3rd. Dyna-S. Stock exhaust, coil mod performed, BR7EIX.
Angel: 1982 GPz550. Stock. DR8EIX.
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Tess: 1977 KZ650-C1. VM24, 97.5/15/3rd. Dyna-S. Stock exhaust, coil mod performed, BR7EIX.
Angel: 1982 GPz550. Stock. DR8EIX.
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21 Jun 2007 17:12 #151591
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Tess: 1977 KZ650-C1. VM24, 97.5/15/3rd. Dyna-S. Stock exhaust, coil mod performed, BR7EIX.
Angel: 1982 GPz550. Stock. DR8EIX.
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Tess: 1977 KZ650-C1. VM24, 97.5/15/3rd. Dyna-S. Stock exhaust, coil mod performed, BR7EIX.
Angel: 1982 GPz550. Stock. DR8EIX.
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21 Jun 2007 17:13 #151592
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Tess: 1977 KZ650-C1. VM24, 97.5/15/3rd. Dyna-S. Stock exhaust, coil mod performed, BR7EIX.
Angel: 1982 GPz550. Stock. DR8EIX.
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Tess: 1977 KZ650-C1. VM24, 97.5/15/3rd. Dyna-S. Stock exhaust, coil mod performed, BR7EIX.
Angel: 1982 GPz550. Stock. DR8EIX.
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21 Jun 2007 17:21 #151597
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Tess: 1977 KZ650-C1. VM24, 97.5/15/3rd. Dyna-S. Stock exhaust, coil mod performed, BR7EIX.
Angel: 1982 GPz550. Stock. DR8EIX.
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I had thought they were VM 24
Dirty.....Don't know this fitting.
Carbs were synced, or so I was told. I should have just insisted I could do it myself. Then at least I'd know these carbs intimately...
So I'm going to adjust fuel and air screws, then pull and clean thoroughly otherwise....or is the suggestion that I get different carbs? I'm unfamilliar with the reference "transition".
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Dirty.....Don't know this fitting.
Carbs were synced, or so I was told. I should have just insisted I could do it myself. Then at least I'd know these carbs intimately...
So I'm going to adjust fuel and air screws, then pull and clean thoroughly otherwise....or is the suggestion that I get different carbs? I'm unfamilliar with the reference "transition".
Post edited by: Virii, at: 2007/06/21 20:23
Tess: 1977 KZ650-C1. VM24, 97.5/15/3rd. Dyna-S. Stock exhaust, coil mod performed, BR7EIX.
Angel: 1982 GPz550. Stock. DR8EIX.
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21 Jun 2007 17:22 #151598
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77 kz650, owned for over 25 years
77 ltd1000, current rider
76 kz900, just waiting
73 z1,, gonna restore this one
piglet, leggero harley davidson
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I am going thru the carb issue deal, the carb you show looks like the ones I have on the ltd1000, according to wg, they are off a suzi, and a pain in the butt to make run right.
I will look at the book, the lower the number the colder the plug, I am running 7s and 6s in the race cars, we run high rpm and lots of compression, so it takes a cold plug to keep the preignition away
I will look at the book, the lower the number the colder the plug, I am running 7s and 6s in the race cars, we run high rpm and lots of compression, so it takes a cold plug to keep the preignition away
77 kz650, owned for over 25 years
77 ltd1000, current rider
76 kz900, just waiting
73 z1,, gonna restore this one
piglet, leggero harley davidson
SR, Ride captian, S.E.Texas Patriot Guard Riders.. AKA KawaBob
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21 Jun 2007 18:43 #151619
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78 650-C2, Stock engine, Jardine 4-2 Exh., 17-38 sprockets, dyna ignition and coils, coil wiring mod, carb mod.
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Champion and everyone else I know of numbers their plugs, the higher the number the hotter the plug, for some reason NGK does just the opposite the higher the number the colder the plug.
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21 Jun 2007 18:47 #151621
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78 650-C2, Stock engine, Jardine 4-2 Exh., 17-38 sprockets, dyna ignition and coils, coil wiring mod, carb mod.
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My memory must be slipping, I thought I was told the fuel screws (the ones on the bottom in front only get turned out 1/4 of a turn. Me bad.
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78 650-C2, Stock engine, Jardine 4-2 Exh., 17-38 sprockets, dyna ignition and coils, coil wiring mod, carb mod.
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