DIY barrel platting
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DIY barrel platting
10 Feb 2025 21:26 - 10 Feb 2025 21:32
Having done a few zinc plating projects in the past, I don't have the patience to individually plate every fastener on a full restoration, so I'm building a barrel plating setup.
Quick breakdown:
-8" dia x 16" LG
-Polypropylene sheet from Zoro. This will need some basic heat shaping and a few holes
-I already have a fixed 12v 50A power supply to go with a PWM driver for the control side. Some quick research said PWM should work for plating... we'll see. I could also use my tig welder, assuming the required current isnt too low.
-SendCutSend or similar for a few cathode bars/structure
-I have a few 2A DC brushed motors to rotate the barrel, but I'll need to design a quick planetary gear set for additional reduction to 5-15 RPM
I made some good progress on the design tonight....
I know a few of you have plated parts in the past, so any thoughts are welcome. One thing I haven't figured out is how to estimate required current for a 10lb bag of fasteners (not gonna calculate surface area there)! I also need to figure out the power transmission through the end plates for the cathodes.
Quick breakdown:
-8" dia x 16" LG
-Polypropylene sheet from Zoro. This will need some basic heat shaping and a few holes
-I already have a fixed 12v 50A power supply to go with a PWM driver for the control side. Some quick research said PWM should work for plating... we'll see. I could also use my tig welder, assuming the required current isnt too low.
-SendCutSend or similar for a few cathode bars/structure
-I have a few 2A DC brushed motors to rotate the barrel, but I'll need to design a quick planetary gear set for additional reduction to 5-15 RPM
I made some good progress on the design tonight....
I know a few of you have plated parts in the past, so any thoughts are welcome. One thing I haven't figured out is how to estimate required current for a 10lb bag of fasteners (not gonna calculate surface area there)! I also need to figure out the power transmission through the end plates for the cathodes.
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Re: DIY barrel platting
11 Feb 2025 00:25Love what you are doing, for the power transfer you could possibly use something like a "horn" contact with a sprung contact from a car steering wheel ??Having done a few zinc plating projects in the past, I don't have the patience to individually plate every fastener on a full restoration, so I'm building a barrel plating setup.
Quick breakdown:
-8" dia x 16" LG
-Polypropylene sheet from Zoro. This will need some basic heat shaping and a few holes
-I already have a fixed 12v 50A power supply to go with a PWM driver for the control side. Some quick research said PWM should work for plating... we'll see. I could also use my tig welder, assuming the required current isnt too low.
-SendCutSend or similar for a few cathode bars/structure
-I have a few 2A DC brushed motors to rotate the barrel, but I'll need to design a quick planetary gear set for additional reduction to 5-15 RPM
I made some good progress on the design tonight....
I know a few of you have plated parts in the past, so any thoughts are welcome. One thing I haven't figured out is how to estimate required current for a 10lb bag of fasteners (not gonna calculate surface area there)! I also need to figure out the power transmission through the end plates for the cathodes.
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Re: DIY barrel platting
11 Feb 2025 09:06
Yeah that was my initial thought.
I might be able to get away with conducting through the ball/needle bearing that the barrel will rotate on... Itd have to be a SS bearing with no shields.
I'll do some more digging to see what commerical products use.
I might be able to get away with conducting through the ball/needle bearing that the barrel will rotate on... Itd have to be a SS bearing with no shields.
I'll do some more digging to see what commerical products use.
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Re: DIY barrel platting
11 Feb 2025 11:24 - 11 Feb 2025 11:29
What about an electric motor brushes.
I wouldn't push electricity through rolling element bearings, because sparking will destroy them.
And since they is your first time doing this, I suggest a batch size smaller than 10 LB. That's a LOT of hardware.
Oh, and I have a speed control, modified geared wiper motor, intended for craft projects, such as moving yard displays, and a power supply. Bought these for a lathe lead screw drive project I never executed.
I wouldn't push electricity through rolling element bearings, because sparking will destroy them.
And since they is your first time doing this, I suggest a batch size smaller than 10 LB. That's a LOT of hardware.
Oh, and I have a speed control, modified geared wiper motor, intended for craft projects, such as moving yard displays, and a power supply. Bought these for a lathe lead screw drive project I never executed.
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Re: DIY barrel platting
11 Feb 2025 12:20
You could also use slip rings and brush box from a car alternator (ref the bearing idea, stainless is a poor conductor)
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Re: DIY barrel platting
11 Feb 2025 18:21 - 11 Feb 2025 18:21What about an electric motor brushes.
I like this.
I wouldn't push electricity through rolling element bearings, because sparking will destroy them.
I was thinking maybe with roller bearings for more surface area and slow speed, but yeah all around bad idea.
And since they is your first time doing this, I suggest a batch size smaller than 10 LB. That's a LOT of hardware.
True, just a number. Barrel plating has some minimum though, i'd guess, to prevent burning parts due to sporadic contact.
Oh, and I have a speed control, modified geared wiper motor, intended for craft projects, such as moving yard displays, and a power supply. Bought these for a lathe lead screw drive project I never executed.
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Re: DIY barrel platting
11 Feb 2025 20:56 - 11 Feb 2025 21:03
Google 'rotary weld positioner'. It would have much of what you require. Most of them withstand quite a lot of amps so the +/- contacts are well made. Also with the ability to swing from a horizontal position to a vertical position you could possibly use a screw-on end cap.
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Re: DIY barrel platting
12 Feb 2025 08:38
Excellent idea. Slow rotary motion and high current, just like my application.
I'll figure out something workable and simple from various ideas I found online, but I haven't really dug into the design yet though. Soon.
I'll figure out something workable and simple from various ideas I found online, but I haven't really dug into the design yet though. Soon.
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