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Wideband AFR Gauge on the Cheap (no more butt dyno) 02 Mar 2018 19:19 #779674

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I never wanted to deal with trying to butt dyno a bike, so I put a bung (actually four, one for each runner) into my exahust to get a read out on the air/fuel ratio of the engine. You'd probably be safe with one sensor as carb screw settings rarely ever change between cylinders.

I bought a bosch lsu 4.9 wideband sensor from ebay and a SLC free wideband controller . If you get the sensor used, the whole thing will run you about $70. If you wanna go cheaper, you can typically find the controller as a kit or just the boards on ebay for cheaper though your electronic skills need to be pretty good to go that route.

The other option is just buying a new wideband sensor kit from AEM or Innovate, but these can be pretty pricey at ~$200. You can find these for ~$100 used on forums and maybe ebay. These kits are just different controllers but use the same 4.2 or 4.9 bosch wideband sensor.

After you get all that setup, its just a case of running your engine, looking at the reading, and tweaking the carbs until the AFR is where you want it. 14.7 is stoichometric and you dont want to go above that: you'd want to be around here for a cruiser. 13.3 or so is best for power.

Here's what the AEM kit looks like:
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Wideband AFR Gauge on the Cheap (no more butt dyno) 02 Mar 2018 20:05 #779676

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I love the innovate LC 1 I bought 10 years ago. It really saves time in getting precise jetting.

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Wideband AFR Gauge on the Cheap (no more butt dyno) 03 Mar 2018 18:52 #779711

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What AFRs do you go for? Mine are about 13.6

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Wideband AFR Gauge on the Cheap (no more butt dyno) 04 Mar 2018 03:00 #779720

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Different throttle positions have different purposes. In the light throttle range for cruising I find I end up around 14. At the extreme end of the power range I end up sweeping through 11.5 to around 13 as the rpms reach redline. I have a thread here somewhere with more details, but it was so long ago, I think the images are gone.

I've only afr tested mechanical carbs. CVs might behave differently.

My previous post was autocorrected "precise" was changed to "pre use".

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Wideband AFR Gauge on the Cheap (no more butt dyno) 04 Mar 2018 06:21 #779723

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No eBay APP ID and/or Cert ID defined in Kunena configurationwww.innovatemotorsports.com/products/db.php

A friend of mine has been tuning his CV32, 1984 GPz550 with 12:1 Pistons, and Web Camshafts (410 lift). He says the Innovative LC1 has helped him better understand tuning. He only has one sensor to the mid-pipe. From where he though it was tuned, wasn't close when he added the wide band. I bought this an LC! from Innovative off Ebay, but have yet to install it. CV Carbs are different running than that of mechanical, and tuning is different.

He says tuning the carbs for the street is ideal, as we are not even close to constant full throttle on the street. Cruising, we are about 1/8 throttle opening as Lou says.

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Wideband AFR Gauge on the Cheap (no more butt dyno) 11 Mar 2018 08:39 #780062

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Stay away from WEGO products...in my opinion.....over-priced junk, no tech support and many compatibility issues for a Kz.

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Wideband AFR Gauge on the Cheap (no more butt dyno) 11 Mar 2018 08:47 #780063

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loudhvx wrote: . . . My previous post was autocorrected "precise" was changed to "pre use".


Previous post edited accordingly.

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