Muffler leaking at slip-on...
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04 Aug 2006 05:41 #67069
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(1.) '75/'76 KZ400D - Commuter
(2.) '78 KZ750B3 Twin - Commuter
(3.) '78 KZ750B3 Twin - Commuter
(4.) '75 KZ400D - Sold
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My slip-on mufflers on one of my 750s are leaking exhaust right at the point of the slip-on, especially the right side pipe.
They fit and are pretty much the correct size, it's just that I can't cram them all the way on due to mount points and the length of the headers. The header is about 2 inches into the slip-on, and the slip-on section is about 3 inches or so.
A noticable exhaust discoloration has built up at that point over the last year or so, making the leak obvious. I can also hear it coming from there under heavy acceleration. It may also be affecting performance (however minor).
Does anyone have a tip (short of welding, which I'd rather not do) of what I might do about this? I thought of three things, and would like advice on any of them (or other suggestions) if your willing:
1.) Replace the headers with longer ones
2.) Cut a slit in the slip-on and clamp around to draw tight to header
3.) Wrap something around the edge of the slip-on to block the leak.. *but what?*
Thanks in advance...
They fit and are pretty much the correct size, it's just that I can't cram them all the way on due to mount points and the length of the headers. The header is about 2 inches into the slip-on, and the slip-on section is about 3 inches or so.
A noticable exhaust discoloration has built up at that point over the last year or so, making the leak obvious. I can also hear it coming from there under heavy acceleration. It may also be affecting performance (however minor).
Does anyone have a tip (short of welding, which I'd rather not do) of what I might do about this? I thought of three things, and would like advice on any of them (or other suggestions) if your willing:
1.) Replace the headers with longer ones
2.) Cut a slit in the slip-on and clamp around to draw tight to header
3.) Wrap something around the edge of the slip-on to block the leak.. *but what?*
Thanks in advance...
(1.) '75/'76 KZ400D - Commuter
(2.) '78 KZ750B3 Twin - Commuter
(3.) '78 KZ750B3 Twin - Commuter
(4.) '75 KZ400D - Sold
kz750twins.com
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04 Aug 2006 10:57 #67124
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I would try this stuff you can get at any autoparts store. It's called "Muffler Mend". It comes in a tube about the size of toothpaste and is a paste. You just pull the muffler back, coat the end of the pipe and then slip it back together. Just clean up the mess on the outside of the joint with a wet cloth and let it sit overnight before starting the bike. The one draw back is you will have a tuff time seperating that pipe again.goodluck
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04 Aug 2006 11:27 #67130
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1977 KZ650C1
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I've used that Muffler Mender on a hole on the bottom side of my exhaust. It blew out after a couple hundred miles.
I think I remember OKCKent using a mild steel plate over JB Weld to fix holes on his and said it lasts, but that may not be applicable to your needs for the spot around the header.
I think I remember OKCKent using a mild steel plate over JB Weld to fix holes on his and said it lasts, but that may not be applicable to your needs for the spot around the header.
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04 Aug 2006 11:38 #67131
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'76 KZ900 LTD (Blaze)
'96 Voyager XII (Dark Star)
'79 KZ650 Cafe Project (Dirty Kurt)
Greensboro, NC
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My manual says to use Super Three Bond No. 10 (P/N 56016-120) where the muffler joins the header pipes. I don't have any of that, but I do use high-temp RTV sealant at the joint. It work OK.
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'76 KZ900 LTD (Blaze)
'96 Voyager XII (Dark Star)
'79 KZ650 Cafe Project (Dirty Kurt)
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04 Aug 2006 15:16 #67163
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(1.) '75/'76 KZ400D - Commuter
(2.) '78 KZ750B3 Twin - Commuter
(3.) '78 KZ750B3 Twin - Commuter
(4.) '75 KZ400D - Sold
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Great tips all around guys, thanks!
I happen to have some of the high-temp atv, so I'll try that first. I don't know why I didn't think of it before... but, that's what this place is all about.
Thanks for letting me bounce it off you...
I happen to have some of the high-temp atv, so I'll try that first. I don't know why I didn't think of it before... but, that's what this place is all about.
Thanks for letting me bounce it off you...
(1.) '75/'76 KZ400D - Commuter
(2.) '78 KZ750B3 Twin - Commuter
(3.) '78 KZ750B3 Twin - Commuter
(4.) '75 KZ400D - Sold
kz750twins.com
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04 Aug 2006 20:36 #67216
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Isn't there a thin gasket that is inside the joint?
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04 Aug 2006 20:44 #67219
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Check out our site. kcvjmc.org
1977 Yamaha XS650
2000 Kaw W650
2 KZ440 LTDs , a 79 KZ400H and an 83 Belt Drive
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This may sound silly but during my part time duties running network/coaxial cabling when we penetrate a firewall we have to seal the hole with fire caulk. You can get it at Home Depot or a like place. Slap a tube in the caulking gun. Let it dry. Not sure how it would work but might be worth a try.
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05 Aug 2006 04:43 #67253
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(1.) '75/'76 KZ400D - Commuter
(2.) '78 KZ750B3 Twin - Commuter
(3.) '78 KZ750B3 Twin - Commuter
(4.) '75 KZ400D - Sold
kz750twins.com
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rgpbeme wrote:
I still have the original pipes/mufflers that I took off, and I never looked to see what's between there...
These are aftermarket mufflers, and pipes I got from eBay, so there's nothing in there at all.Isn't there a thin gasket that is inside the joint?
I still have the original pipes/mufflers that I took off, and I never looked to see what's between there...
(1.) '75/'76 KZ400D - Commuter
(2.) '78 KZ750B3 Twin - Commuter
(3.) '78 KZ750B3 Twin - Commuter
(4.) '75 KZ400D - Sold
kz750twins.com
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05 Aug 2006 13:26 #67326
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you could possibly wrap it with header wrap?? or see if you could stuff some of that in the gap.
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