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1 st cylinder dont fire 16 May 2023 12:37 #884767

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Hello,
The first cylinder dont work. The bike run on 3 cylinders.
carb is clean. I can see a spark from the spark plug when i test it. The spark plug have oil but no sign of start.
I suppose a worn valve guide because of the oil on the spark plug.
but can this cause a missfire ?
i think the spark plug would be black an fouled and not new and oiled …
The coils have 4 years. Dyna green.
to test the coils can i use a old kaw one mixed with a dyna one ?

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f
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1 st cylinder dont fire 16 May 2023 12:41 #884768

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Yes you can mix the coils to test as long as they are the same resistance (3-4 ohms) oil on the plug will cause a misfire as the voltage will travel to ground through the oil rather than jumping the gap (electricity is lazy)
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1 st cylinder dont fire 16 May 2023 12:48 #884769

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Burn away the carbon and oil with a gas torch and than clean the spark plug with a brass brush.
 

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1 st cylinder dont fire 16 May 2023 12:51 #884770

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Ok but i should see some trace of ignition on the spark… i think i can see a little black color but just at the gap. Other than that the spark plug is like new …
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1 st cylinder dont fire 16 May 2023 13:16 #884772

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Spark, fuel, compression.

If you have spark, the carbs are verified okay, that leaves compression.

Are the valve clearances in spec?  Compression test.

Based on prevailing past history, I'd guess carbs, because many times people think their carbs are clean, however there could be an internal problem with the pilot circuit.
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1 st cylinder dont fire 17 May 2023 16:19 #884815

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Hello,

just an update to help if someone have this problem :
The spark plug was defective!. Purchased new (ngkb8es) but the spark was not blue and powerfull has other ones.

Note : i'm going to buy a good spark plug tester!
thank you for your help,
Fox
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1 st cylinder dont fire 17 May 2023 18:28 #884820

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You may have gotten a knock off plug made in China.
I have several restored bikes along with a 2006 Goldwing with a sidecar. My wife has a 2019 Suzuki DR 650 for on and off road.

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