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30 Apr 2022 13:42 #866435
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Hello all,
Do the 13 mm valve shims come in thicknesses greater than .320mm? I need a .350mm. The cam lobs are in tolerance, but at 40k miles they are getting close.
Thanks,
Joe
Do the 13 mm valve shims come in thicknesses greater than .320mm? I need a .350mm. The cam lobs are in tolerance, but at 40k miles they are getting close.
Thanks,
Joe
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30 Apr 2022 14:18 #866436
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AIR CORRECTOR JETS FOR VM CARBS AND ETHANOL RESISTANT VITON CHOKE PLUNGER SEAL REPLACMENT FOR ALL CLASSIC AND MODERN MOTORCYCLE CARBURETTORS
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Thickest shim is 320.
Why do you need thicker ?
The clearances close up with valve and seat wear on these engines so thinner shims are required unless the valve tips have been over ground.
Why do you need thicker ?
The clearances close up with valve and seat wear on these engines so thinner shims are required unless the valve tips have been over ground.
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30 Apr 2022 14:58 #866437
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Bent valves, not closing all the way, can create large (false) clearance.
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30 Apr 2022 15:36 #866439
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Zed,
Thanks for chiming in. I better rethink this as I may be adding when I should be subtracting.
joe
Thanks for chiming in. I better rethink this as I may be adding when I should be subtracting.
joe
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30 Apr 2022 16:46 #866440
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Zed,
I am a moron. I don’t need a 350, I need a 150.
Thank you so much!
joe
I am a moron. I don’t need a 350, I need a 150.
Thank you so much!
joe
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01 May 2022 02:04 - 01 May 2022 02:12 #866452
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What is your current shim sizes and clearance.
The thinnest shim is a 200 .
Sounds like you are going to need the head off for some valve work if you need thinner than that.
By the book .30mm can be taken off the valve stem tip to gain some clearance and if you know what you are doing up to 1mm can be taken off the stem, collets and retainers .
Failing that you may need to try new unworn valves , bigger valves to use the larger diameter unworn portion of the seats or J valves which have a 1mm shorter stem.
Once those options have been exhausted the head will need new seats fitted.
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Are you sure you need to reduce the shim size by that much to gain clearance ?Zed,
I am a moron. I don’t need a 350, I need a 150.
Thank you so much!
joe
What is your current shim sizes and clearance.
The thinnest shim is a 200 .
Sounds like you are going to need the head off for some valve work if you need thinner than that.
By the book .30mm can be taken off the valve stem tip to gain some clearance and if you know what you are doing up to 1mm can be taken off the stem, collets and retainers .
Failing that you may need to try new unworn valves , bigger valves to use the larger diameter unworn portion of the seats or J valves which have a 1mm shorter stem.
Once those options have been exhausted the head will need new seats fitted.
AIR CORRECTOR JETS FOR VM CARBS AND ETHANOL RESISTANT VITON CHOKE PLUNGER SEAL REPLACMENT FOR ALL CLASSIC AND MODERN MOTORCYCLE CARBURETTORS
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01 May 2022 04:29 #866455
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I have several restored bikes along with a 2006 Goldwing with a sidecar. My wife has a 2019 Suzuki DR 650 for on and off road.
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Maybe tell us what engine you're working on. Are the shims located under the valve tappet (bucket) and how are you measuring your clearance? And what are the clearances?
I have several restored bikes along with a 2006 Goldwing with a sidecar. My wife has a 2019 Suzuki DR 650 for on and off road.
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01 May 2022 14:43 #866487
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Thanks for all the help. I got it figured out and all the valves are back in spec. It took two tries, but I finally figured it out. I am waiting on a new electronic ignition and then I will know if I am done.
thanks to all 0f you for all of the help.
joe
thanks to all 0f you for all of the help.
joe
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01 May 2022 15:17 #866490
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The old 0.5mm to 0.10mm is incorrect and was changed to 0.10mm to 0.15mm to avoid valve seat burning.
Always aim for the highest figure or slightly above if that's where the shims take you.
Hopefully you have gone for the Dyna 'S' ignition.
These are proven and have a very low failure rate.
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If you have a z900/1000 make sure you have 0.15mm clearance.Thanks for all the help. I got it figured out and all the valves are back in spec. It took two tries, but I finally figured it out. I am waiting on a new electronic ignition and then I will know if I am done.
thanks to all 0f you for all of the help.
joe
The old 0.5mm to 0.10mm is incorrect and was changed to 0.10mm to 0.15mm to avoid valve seat burning.
Always aim for the highest figure or slightly above if that's where the shims take you.
Hopefully you have gone for the Dyna 'S' ignition.
These are proven and have a very low failure rate.
AIR CORRECTOR JETS FOR VM CARBS AND ETHANOL RESISTANT VITON CHOKE PLUNGER SEAL REPLACMENT FOR ALL CLASSIC AND MODERN MOTORCYCLE CARBURETTORS
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