ZR7 Motor in a KZ750

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ZR7 Motor in a KZ750

12 Feb 2022 04:53
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Hi all, I’m just about to install a ZR7 motor into a 1980 KZ750E frame, I know it’s something that’s been done before so can’t see any issues. The original KZ front top motor mounts will work but the ZR7 motor was originally rubber mounted, will this make a big difference with vibration if its solid mounted or would I be better cutting off the KZ mounts off the frame and fabricating something up to take the ZR7 rubber mounts?

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Re: ZR7 Motor in a KZ750

20 Feb 2022 08:35 - 20 Feb 2022 08:37
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Sorry for this bit of a late response.

I did the same thing only a bit different. I put a '82 750 Spectre motor (originally rubber mounted) in a KZ650 frame. You end up having to make up the rubber mounting space with aluminum spacers. This has to happen at every engine mount face. The spacers I made are 6061 aluminum, faced to length on a lathe then drilled for the engine mount bolts.

The key is bolting up the motor using all the motor mount plates to suspend it and carefully measuring for the missing spacers. The lower rear frame mount tab under the sprocket needs to be maintained tight to be sure the chain lines up.

There is no difference in ride from a normal rigid mounted KZ.

The original Kawasaki rubber mounting system is a bit complex to try and retrofit onto a solid mounted frame - Way too much work involved.


 
1978 KZ650B2 w 1197cc Z1 engine
1977 KZ650B1 w 750cc Spectre engine
1979 KZ650C3 w 831cc Hot Rod engine
1978 KZ650C2 w 762cc DFI project
1977 KZ650C1 stock restoration project
1978 KZ650B2 modified project
1978 KZ650B2 Injected Drag 831cc
1980 Z1 Custom Frame Drag 1327cc
1981 Z50R Honda tow bike
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Re: ZR7 Motor in a KZ750

20 Feb 2022 14:16
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As Injected noted, there is little discernible difference in ride quality  between the solid engine mounts and the rubber ones. Weird I know…
The Zr-7 motors do not have the lower engine mount bosses. Not on the frame nor on the motor. But they did add a horizontal brace between the frame hoops at the lower location. If possible, you may want to fabricate a brace you can bolt into you existing lower engine mounts to help regain the frame rigidity that will be lost. 
Also, just out of curiosity, how are you dealing with the different ignition pulse/crank trigger setup that the zr-7 uses? Are you wiring in the zr-7 ignition module into your kz harness or are you machining a new reluctor?  I’m just curious how folks go about making that part of the swap work. 

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Re: ZR7 Motor in a KZ750

08 Mar 2022 10:03
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Thanks for the replies, I ended up cutting the old KZ mounts off and fabricated some new ones which allowed me to use the ZR7 rubber mounts. looked factory and worked great, unfortunately no pictures as it was a customer’s bike

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Re: ZR7 Motor in a KZ750

08 Mar 2022 10:10 - 09 Mar 2022 02:06
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As Injected noted, there is little discernible difference in ride quality  between the solid engine mounts and the rubber ones. Weird I know…
The Zr-7 motors do not have the lower engine mount bosses. Not on the frame nor on the motor. But they did add a horizontal brace between the frame hoops at the lower location. If possible, you may want to fabricate a brace you can bolt into you existing lower engine mounts to help regain the frame rigidity that will be lost. 
Also, just out of curiosity, how are you dealing with the different ignition pulse/crank trigger setup that the zr-7 uses? Are you wiring in the zr-7 ignition module into your kz harness or are you machining a new reluctor?  I’m just curious how folks go about making that part of the swap work. 


 
I put 2 extra tubes in the frame, one at the bottom and one higher up for the oil cooler to mount to. The full wiring loom from the ZR7 was used
Last edit: 09 Mar 2022 02:06 by 4wDaz.

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