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Red chunks of "something" in the oil pan 07 Feb 2022 13:26 #861938

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Greetings all, 

I hope 2022 is treating everyone well. 

I was doing some winter repairs on the 82 KZ1000 K2 which included changing the oil pan gasket.  When I pulled the bottom pan and began to clean it (1st time since I purchased the bike), I notice red "chunks" of some hard material in the bottom of the pan.  I picked out 3 of the larger chunks and took a photo of them (attached).  There was enough material there to have been something.   I don't have any running issues, just wasn't expecting to find this.

Does anyone have any idea what the red chunks could have been in their former life? 

Thanks
Scott

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Red chunks of "something" in the oil pan 07 Feb 2022 13:42 #861941

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Your picture isn't showing up, but you probably know that.

Soft & squishy, like hi temp RTV? No? Maybe clutch disc material. It happens.
Don't be ridiculous! It's only a flesh wound!

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Red chunks of "something" in the oil pan 07 Feb 2022 13:52 #861945

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The red chunks are broke off epoxy glue from the alternator rotor magnets.

 
 
 
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Red chunks of "something" in the oil pan 08 Feb 2022 13:23 #862003

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What a spot on diagnosis! Much thanks for that one. 
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Red chunks of "something" in the oil pan 08 Feb 2022 15:18 #862008

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I fixed your pictures. Next time please finish the install by clicking the insert all tab  before clicking submit
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Red chunks of "something" in the oil pan 09 Feb 2022 12:36 #862053

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I fixed your pictures. Next time please finish the install by clicking the insert all tab  before clicking submit
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Red chunks of "something" in the oil pan 04 Jan 2023 17:54 #878540

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Out of pure curiosity; can a rotor with broken magnet chunks be used? My understanding was it had to be replaced for balance issues. 

Is that the case? 

I´m going to look into mine right now. Have never undone the cover...

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Red chunks of "something" in the oil pan 05 Jan 2023 00:18 #878542

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The missing part in the picture is only the excess epoxy that has squeeezed out when the magnets have been applied, you are right that any rotating parts need to be balanced. An out of balance part starts a harmonic vibration that at best will make the motor feel rough and at worst cause the crank to fail.
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Red chunks of "something" in the oil pan 05 Jan 2023 09:46 #878558

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Why? I should have imagined it! This bike will be great again, but it is really a disaster…

my rotor magnets are broken. I’m inclined to epoxy them for the moment

 
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Personally I wouldn't recommend anything less than a "correct" repair on a part that spins at up to 9,000rpm   This bike will love you forever (like an abused rescue dog you give a warm home, food and affection) 
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Red chunks of "something" in the oil pan 05 Jan 2023 10:26 #878562

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Yes, of course. You are right.

Will start investigating on the extractor tool and support. If you think about it, everything points towards a total disassemble 

where can I find a replacement rotor? Is there a cross reference to any other bike? 

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