Starter clutch removal

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01 Sep 2021 19:01 #854704 by Cfoux85
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I've seen a post about being able to remove the starter clutch from the bottom of a 1982 Kawasaki kz750e but I can't find the post or maybe I'm just so tired from working on my bike. I just want to ride this thing once lol. Can someone please help me with getting my motorcycle running finally lol 

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01 Sep 2021 19:31 #854707 by Nessism
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A lot of parts need to come off including the exhaust, sump cover, engine covers, and then the secondary shaft and starter clutch.  Doable for sure, but a good deal of work.
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01 Sep 2021 21:37 #854714 by TexasKZ
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I guess you can ignore my post in the other thread.

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01 Sep 2021 22:47 #854716 by Cfoux85
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Yeah I got the exhaust off and clutch lever and cover, the oil pan but I haven't taken the rotor/stator cover, or the other side covers

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02 Sep 2021 01:29 - 02 Sep 2021 01:41 #854724 by hugo
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You are double posting and that makes more difficult as it spreads the answers.

Generalities:...and I mean, these are generalities.

...would not attempt w/out a Factory Manual and see what's involved before starting anything.  Replace whole starting clutch including races, not just springs and rollers.

....the outside engine covers are held by bolts, and there is not reasons they should be tight.   Oil pan, full exhaust, oil pump, entire tranny clutch have to come out.    You will need an impact gun for big inner basket clutch nut (get a new nut)....and a basket holder too.

Secondary shaft is held on right by plate and staked screws, ...you will need an impact screwdriver for those.

Secondary shaft is extracted from left to right, and starter clutch drops through the oil pan opening..    Might as well get the new rubber dampers inside the starting clutch hub. 

Starter Clutch can be substituted by Sprag Clutch from the ZR-7, much stronger, but secondary shaft and oil pump would also be needed from the ZR-7, which makes it a much more expensive proposition.   
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02 Sep 2021 02:30 #854726 by Cfoux85
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My bad and I really appreciate your help, my bike only has 4700 miles on it but the previous owner didn't ride it from what my dad said which he is the one who gave it to me. He said the original owner was trying to modify it somehow and took the air box out and installed the air filter pods and count figure out why the fuel was filling up the crankcase.  My dad said he couldn't figure it out himself and for being a Harley Davidson mechanic and a motorcycle junkie, I couldn't understand why he couldn't figure it out himself. I figured that issue out within a day but every time I get it running, something else seems to go wrong. The issues now is either the starter is burnt up from me cranking on it not knowing that wasnt good for it or the starter clutch isn't catching and releasing when trying to crank. I've been riding all my life but cleaning bikes was all the work I've done on a motorcycle,  my dad would usually have my motorcycle fixed before I could even think about working on it. So I've got a starter clutch ordered just in case I guess and I've been using Valveline 10w 40 4stroke motor oil in it. I haven't even been able to ride it yet, I've just been dumping my money on guesses so far from what I've gotten out of what I've been reading on this site and the repair manual I've downloaded from here. So any other tips or anything is highly appreciated 

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02 Sep 2021 14:15 - 02 Sep 2021 14:18 #854744 by hugo
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Hard to accept the starter clutch would go bad with only 4700 miles.     If the cranking motor works, but starting clutch is slipping, the engine would crank, but there would be a high pitch, loose marbles sound, as the starter clutch slips.    

.....most of the time, if you keep trying engine would catch and run, if that is the problem.   Usually the starter clutch just does not quit altogether, gets symptoms that grow worse overtime....but in general, gives you time to think things through....and still ride the bike..

..if you push the start button, and there is nothing,.....you may have other problems.       
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02 Sep 2021 14:43 #854747 by 650ed
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Hard to accept the starter clutch would go bad with only 4700 miles.         
 
 Exactly!  My 1977 KZ650 has more than 62,000 miles and the starter clutch still works fine.  What oil are you using?  The wrong oil can create problems.  Ed

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02 Sep 2021 22:00 #854759 by Cfoux85
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Yes sir, what you just described is what it was doing

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02 Sep 2021 22:03 #854760 by Cfoux85
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I've been using Valveline 4 stroke 10w-40. Should I try something else 

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03 Sep 2021 01:20 - 03 Sep 2021 01:34 #854763 by hugo
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Yes sir, what you just described is what it was doing

I take it, you are responding that pushing the starter button does nothing,.......then you may have jumped to conclussions about the starter clutch and should start  there... as.........is electrical power available...??.....is it getting to crank motor?...is solenoid clicking?......so and so.

Adquiring any vehicle this old, does not mean you can simply ride/drive into the sunset for cheap.......usually they require refreshing, TLC, and sometimes downright restoration....a bit of a passion for it.......sorry, but had to say that.........at least for me; working on them is 50% of the fun.




 
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03 Sep 2021 06:00 #854768 by TexasKZ
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