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06 Jul 2021 11:24 #851382 by blipco
I bought a set (flange nuts) in a bubble pack at an auto parts chain store. I believe it was Advance. They were cheap.

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06 Jul 2021 11:43 - 06 Jul 2021 11:44 #851387 by Mikaw
OP is asking for OE style. They are captured spring washer nut. Flange nuts, we called them wiz nuts, those are easy. He asked for OE style. 

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1980 KZ 750 E1
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06 Jul 2021 14:41 #851409 by DOHC

Mikaw post=851387OP is asking for OE style. They are captured spring washer nut. Flange nuts, we called them wiz nuts, those are easy. He asked for OE style. 

Yes, that's correct.  I didn't realize that the OE style captive split washers were so unusual.  I figured I just wasn't looking in the right place.  

Looking at the options so far, I'm considering using either a conical spring washer similar to the Ebay link Mikaw posted, or a "distorted thread flange nut".  

www.mcmaster.com/91270A340/

www.mcmaster.com/3528N12/

Either that, or just regular old separate nuts and lock washers.

Dr. Gamma, where do you get your titanium fasteners?  :)

 

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06 Jul 2021 15:27 - 06 Jul 2021 16:24 #851413 by Dr. Gamma
Hey DOHC the last few times I got some titanium fasteners they came from Titan-X in England. They have a few different styles of fasteners in most common sizes, and they all come drilled for safety wire. Just wish their nuts came drilled for wire. Their prices are reasonable and they ship quick from the other side of the pond!!!! There are all kinds of places now selling titanium hardware and they all are reasonable priced compared to what I used to pay for titanium fasteners 15, 20 years ago!!!!

www.titan-x.co.uk
 

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06 Jul 2021 16:10 #851416 by krazee1

Mikaw post=851387OP is asking for OE style. They are captured spring washer nut. Flange nuts, we called them wiz nuts, those are easy. He asked for OE style. 

Yes, that's correct.  I didn't realize that the OE style captive split washers were so unusual.  I figured I just wasn't looking in the right place.  

Looking at the options so far, I'm considering using either a conical spring washer similar to the Ebay link Mikaw posted, or a "distorted thread flange nut".  

www.mcmaster.com/91270A340/

www.mcmaster.com/3528N12/

Either that, or just regular old separate nuts and lock washers.

Dr. Gamma, where do you get your titanium fasteners?  :)
The captive lock washers were only for ease/speed of assembly, separate washers and nuts will look original. The high priced originals do look like they are from Johnnys Vintage Cycle,  you can see the very small logo in the add.  I paid kind of stupid money for a footpeg stud that had gone missing for my Z1A.  Johnny was brilliant to buy up all the hardware that he did,  must have known someone would want it someday!

Mike

 

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06 Jul 2021 16:51 #851419 by blipco

OP is asking for OE style. They are captured spring washer nut. Flange nuts, we called them wiz nuts, those are easy. He asked for OE style. 

Ok, my bad. Then spend the money.

 

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06 Jul 2021 17:22 #851420 by Mikaw
If you are not heart set on the OEM. Look into Fuji lock nuts and put a nice flat washer under. It will lock, clamp, but not gall up the fastened item.

1976 KZ 900 A4 kzrider.com/forum/11-projects/613548-1976-kz-900-a4
1976 KZ 900 B1 LTD
1978 KZ 1000 B2 LTD
1980 KZ 750 E1
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06 Jul 2021 18:20 #851424 by DOHC

 Look into Fuji lock nuts 
Thanks!  I was going to ask about a source for that style as well, but I had no idea what to call it.  Now I know.


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07 Jul 2021 06:36 #851446 by Rick H.
When you have a chance check out Belmetric.com  They have an incredible assorted of stuff all metric.  They even have Fuji nuts in all sizes.  Great place to deal with and they ship quickly.  They are my go to place it I need something and can get by with non-OEM.  I used Fuji nuts for several lock nut areas.

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13 Aug 2021 19:57 - 13 Aug 2021 19:58 #853751 by DOHC

DOHC post=851424

Mikaw post=851420 Look into Fuji lock nuts 

Thanks!  I was going to ask about a source for that style as well, but I had no idea what to call it.  Now I know.​​​


I thought I'd add an update.  I ordered some fuji style nuts from a place called MotoSport.

www.motosport.com/bolt-fuji-style-metric-lock-nuts?variant [BMH000S]=BMH000S-X001-Y003

They seem fine, and were not ridiculously expensive.  However, it turns out the stud is not quite long enough to fully engage the lock tabs.  It's close....


 

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