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loose starter chain on kz400
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07 Oct 2020 17:05 #836369
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loose starter chain on kz400 was created by davidjahns
picked up 75 kz4 that was "halfway" through a restoration job. Previous guy had put on Mikunis, new points, and replaced the starter. Said he got it off another 75 kz400. It works, but the chain is very loose - so much that it bangs on the casing when turning over. I thought somehow the chain had loosened up, or was possibly the wrong length of chain - found another used one and tried it, but got the exact same results. The chain is the same on all kz400 and 440 from 75-82, so pretty sure it's the right one. I don't see any place to tighten/adjust/wiggle anything in the starter, or gear, etc.
Any ideas what could be going on here? And how to fix?
Any ideas what could be going on here? And how to fix?
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08 Oct 2020 11:40 - 08 Oct 2020 11:43 #836398
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1981 KZ550 D1 gpz.
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Replied by loudhvx on topic loose starter chain on kz400
Did you check the part numbers on the starter sprocket. I seem to recall someone else having this issue on a Kz400 and it was the starter sprocket was the wrong one. I took this photo for that thread. It's from a 76 500D3 . It has 13 teeth and 31 splines..
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11 Oct 2020 16:12 #836657
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Replied by davidjahns on topic loose starter chain on kz400
I received a starter sprocket with the new chain, and they were identical - 13 teeth, same number of splines..
UPDATE: there is some wiggle room in the starter shaft. Just enough to tighten up the chain.
I took the starter apart to see what I could learn about it, and when I put it back together, it seemed tight. But then once I put in on the bike and gave the starter a spin (without the chain), it went back to being loose. Any ideas what's going on there?
UPDATE: there is some wiggle room in the starter shaft. Just enough to tighten up the chain.
I took the starter apart to see what I could learn about it, and when I put it back together, it seemed tight. But then once I put in on the bike and gave the starter a spin (without the chain), it went back to being loose. Any ideas what's going on there?
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11 Oct 2020 16:14 #836658
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Replied by davidjahns on topic loose starter chain on kz400
here's video of the starter shaft wiggle.
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11 Oct 2020 17:11 #836663
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Replied by gd4now on topic loose starter chain on kz400
I can not tell from the video you posted if the movement is just the shaft, which to me would indicate an issue with the the bearings/bushings the shaft run through. Or if the entire stater is moving, in which case I would attempt to shim it tight.
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11 Oct 2020 17:39 #836664
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Replied by davidjahns on topic loose starter chain on kz400
Hey Thanks! the starter itself is rock solid in there, and when I had it removed and separated out, the shaft part was wobbly by itself. When I put the small gears on the spindle and put it back together, it appeared to be tight, but then went wiggly again after installing it and spinning the starter.
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