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08 Aug 2020 14:38 #832427
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Hi guys new to the forum, I've just bought a 78 z650 and it chatters a bit in 5he clutch area at tick over, tick over to slow maybe or standard rattle?
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08 Aug 2020 19:36 #832462
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Former M.E. at Kawasaki Motors Manufacturing, Lincoln, NE
1966 W1 (the Z1 of 1966-50H.P. and 100mph!)
1974 Z1
1978 KZ1000 LTD
1976 KZ900B pile O parts
1980 KZ750E
1980 Honda XL250S (I know, wrong flavor!)
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Engines with primary chains as your 650 has are known to be especially noisy if the carbs are not synchronized for a nice smooth idle.
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Former M.E. at Kawasaki Motors Manufacturing, Lincoln, NE
1966 W1 (the Z1 of 1966-50H.P. and 100mph!)
1974 Z1
1978 KZ1000 LTD
1976 KZ900B pile O parts
1980 KZ750E
1980 Honda XL250S (I know, wrong flavor!)
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09 Aug 2020 00:23 - 09 Aug 2020 01:41 #832466
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It really helps tickover if the clutch basket dampers are not loose. Any misfire or stumble creates a pendulum effect making the primary chain rattle. Its a big job to do as it involves dismantling the basket to replace them and they are not available as replacements so have to be fabricated.
Pablo did a good how to thread on Charlies forum
z650.proboards.com/thread/3170/clutch-ba...-dampers-replacement
Pablo did a good how to thread on Charlies forum
z650.proboards.com/thread/3170/clutch-ba...-dampers-replacement
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09 Aug 2020 05:58 #832469
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What is the idle speed set to? If it's set below 1000 rpm the rattle will occur. My 1977 KZ650 with more than 61,000 miles has zero rattle at 1050 rpm, but below 1000 it does make a bit of noise. The Kawasaki manual recommends setting the idle speed to between 950 - 1050 rpm. Ed
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Ninja wrote: Hi guys new to the forum, I've just bought a 78 z650 and it chatters a bit in 5he clutch area at tick over, tick over to slow maybe or standard rattle?
What is the idle speed set to? If it's set below 1000 rpm the rattle will occur. My 1977 KZ650 with more than 61,000 miles has zero rattle at 1050 rpm, but below 1000 it does make a bit of noise. The Kawasaki manual recommends setting the idle speed to between 950 - 1050 rpm. Ed
1977 KZ650-C1 Original Owner - Stock (with additional invisible FIAMM horn)
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14 Sep 2020 03:21 #834968
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I have to a rattling noice on my 750-82, diaspears when reved over 1500. (45000km)
So it can be the carbs thats out of tune?
So it can be the carbs thats out of tune?
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14 Sep 2020 05:28 #834973
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Possibly. I think the best approach is to insure that ALL of the routine maintenance, as described in the owner's manual and in the factory service manual, is up to date and within specification. All of it.
If the noise persists, then is the time to look at more complicated and expensive possibilities like clutch basket dampers.
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Mhassic wrote: I have to a rattling noice on my 750-82, diaspears when reved over 1500. (45000km)
So it can be the carbs thats out of tune?
Possibly. I think the best approach is to insure that ALL of the routine maintenance, as described in the owner's manual and in the factory service manual, is up to date and within specification. All of it.
If the noise persists, then is the time to look at more complicated and expensive possibilities like clutch basket dampers.
1982 KZ1000 LTD parts donor
1981 KZ1000 LTD awaiting resurrection
2000 ZRX1100 not ridden enough
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